Oblivion

[2biT]

Who is getting it?

Im totally hyped about this game. Morrowind was awesome when you got past the masses of text and the crapy combat system. Oblivion has done away with alot of the trash in morrowind and improved all the good stuff.

Fancy being a cold blooded assassin? a thief? a mage? a gladiator? a vampire? Hell just about anything..

With raidiant AI, it looks freeking awesome.

Combat looks hawt too.

http://www.elderscrolls.com/home/home.htm

Or if you want to see combat in action:

http://files.filefront.com/TES4+Oblivion+5Days/;4886244;;/fileinfo.html

[mUle]

I have officialy spent the last year or so waiting for oblivion, i have gathered ALOT of articles rewievs and one prewiew, all the videos includig the new"countdown" videos (i have also watched the famed "teh german vid") waiting exited for the next one to arrive. And i have also spent alot of time on the elderscrolls messageboards finding out alot about: lore, combat system, equipment, skills, guilds ect. So, im getting it the day its out or else i will freak out. This game is going to be legendary!

-mUle

[mUle]

OOOOOOOOOH! tomorrow it is oblivion time! oblivion time! oblivion time! tomorrow it is oblivion time! i is gonna gameZxorZ!

/me runs down the street singing

[RazielDemon]

Yeah I'll get it. I hope magic is worthwhile to use this time around though.

[mUle]

yes it will be, in oblivion you dont have to press a button to "ready spell" like in morrowind so that it will be a better magic-combat system. and if you watch some of the movies you will se that magic wands and AoE arrows works like a rocketluncher!

edit: lets all play Arena (http://www.elderscrolls.com/downloads/downloads_games.htm) untill the sky turns red (wtf!?) and wolfs howl to the sky (WTF!?) to celebrate oblivions arrival ^-^

[mOle]

Morrowin was fun... i was so overpowered... i liked it

I get oblivion the 25th i think...

/me is hyped

[mUle]

lowl lowl! oblivion is out!!!! some says its a little dissapointing but, whatevah

[Juggalo]

/me is buying it next week.

Dont want to stand in line with the role-playing freaks. *shudder*

[Captain Salazar Snowberry]

My friend has Oblivion, I've played it. Woot for me, it's pretty sex. The only bad thing is that mudcrabs looks like crabs now, not like, you know mudcrabs.

But, yeah, I stayed up for the 12 hour marathon on Gamespot, totally worth it.

[mUle]

man! i hate living in europe, we wont get the game until the end of this week (or worse: the next *brrrrr*). someboby kill me

[RazielDemon]

Jugs, why don't you order it on amazon via the TLSC affiliates thing?

No waiting in line :)



Anyways, I didn't have time to watch the marathon but I watched the 20 minute highlight thing, looking good... LOL at the fire allarm ending heh.

[Juggalo]

Jugs, why don't you order it on amazon via the TLSC affiliates thing?

No waiting in line :)


Huh? You guys finally got that? :blink:

I would, but I have store credit I need to use. Still have $85 at EB. :-\

[Elukka]

I would probably get Oblivion.. but, the system requirements are a tad high, so i'll have to wait until i get about 300€ from nothing. Maybe i'll buy it later, hopefully it will also be cheaper by then.

[RazielDemon]

Well... release date in 24th, so I'll probably pick it up then

[2biT]

Got my CE copy today, still at work atm so i cant say what it plays like :(

So far impressed with the updated skills/perks/mini games, that ive read in the manual. The bonus dvd was cool but short, and there are some nice art sections in it.

Cant wait to try it out at home :)

[Polaris]

I liked morrowind. Maybe I'll get it. Multiplayer?

[Captain Salazar Snowberry]

Multiplayer?
You're too hopeful.

READ: NO

[Polaris]

Oblivion as an MMO would be vastly superior to WoW

[Fragman]

http://pc.ign.com/articles/694/694574p1.html
Battle system compaired to elderscrolls there you go my good sirs.

[Marb]

Got it, played it, love it. Walking and jumping still looks like crap but I'll be in first person 90% of the time anyway. Interface/inventory/map/spellbook etc. have had a nice makeover.

[RazielDemon]

You mean they were dumbed down for the 360... you can't bulk sell, or even see any decent portion of your inventory at a time.

Not being able to name your saves annoys me a bit too, but meh, it's certainly still fun and the combat isnt nearly as boring as morrowind.

They haven't realy fixed the broken skill system though it seems.

[Captain Salazar Snowberry]

They haven't realy fixed the broken skill system though it seems.

Well, now you can only train 5 ranks per level, so you can't abuse the system as much. Before you could start the game, kill a couple Dark Brotherhood guys sell their armour for massive amounts of money, then *BAM* level 20.

[Outrageous Cheek]

This game looks so cute. I'm gunna get it for the 360, yall know if 360 players can play with the PC players? I saw some vids yesterday and what Marb said about the jumping and swimming made me giggle cuz it's so true.

[Quietus]

Are you serious? It has zero MP. There is no point in even getting it for the 360, since you can use a 360 controller with a PC, and you can download mods on the PC, while you can't download them for the 360.

As for the game, I'm loving it. I just wish there was some diversity between the "specials" for weapons, and a bigger difference between one handed and two handed.

Also now all monsters (excluding most unique NPCs) scale with your character level (to a certain limit), and the overall difficulty is quite hard. You couldn't kill anyone with decent loot at level 1, 5, or even 10. So most of that cheese is eliminated. Also keeps it challenging as you go (harder in some aspects too).

My main beefs are how much you have to repair (some of the shit I'm fighting now brings some of my armor down to 0, from 125 in a single fight, and weapon to half).

And that mage type enemies spend most of the fight buffing, then throw one or two weak ass spells that don't even faze me. The melee monsters are the ones I even have a challenge with, especially Undead Warriors for some reason (and just wait till you get to fight the Undead Blades, hardest in the game to bring down so far, easily). Archery is even worse off than magery. Hold up shield, block first arrow, charge and begin distributing beatdown. At least the mage gets in one or two buffs.

[2biT]

Try playing on hardest setting :)

So far i love it, i went for a orc warrior type to get into it first before i go down my assassin/thief char. Fighting can be inbetween mashing the attack button to realy getting a good grip on timing attacks and using magic to back it up.

The interface hasnt been 'dumbed down' its far more streamlined, and easy to use after 30 minutes play. It does have to niggles, like the bulk selling on some items, and placing things in-out of chests etc. pysics is realy good, npcs great and the graphics are cool.

The major problem i have is my fx5950 is just not good enough to play it reasonably smooth. Im at 1024, with all the detail at lowest, and out doors it chuggs to a stop, indoors is fine, but combat can be a bit slow somtimes. Im gonna spend a long time tonight tweeking the .ini file to find the best results. But it looks like im gonna have to blow £250 on a nice new 7800gt :P

[2biT]

I didnt take block as a skill did you quietus? Blocking is uber when you get some of the perks, atm i take a fair bit of damage throught blocking. And the casters will get a hell of alot harder as you level up :)

[Hammerdin]

Got the game yesterday and played it for half an hour. So far so good in the newbie dungeon. Only complain is the lack of tool tips in the inventory and stats screens. Can't wait to play more on the weekend!

[Quietus]

Yeah I got block. Still, the undead blades are the hardest monsters I've found anywhere.

The hardest casters I've found are Will O The Wisp, thankfully I've only found them scattered outdoors.

[Bentusi]

I'm liking it so far.

Definitly the funniest moment I've had is one quest from the Dark Brotherhood. I had a mark to kill, cept the point was to make it look like an accident. So intest of outright killing him i snuck into his house, waited 5 hours for the right time in a tiny ass crawlhole (not unlike those theives who wait in you attic) and then loosed some fastenings on a mounted minotaur head, which promptly fell and killed him. His bodyguard rushed over and stood dumbfounded as I snuck out the door and returned to the santcuary.

Now that was fun, definitely not as fun as another dark brotherhood quest (Locked in a house with 6 people, killing them one by one, and watching them all go fucking nuts with fear. I was laughing so hard at the end b/c I had it down to 2 people. One guy who was a former soldier, who actually went and GOT his armor and weapons from a chest once it was down to 2 people which didn't help him... and a small and frail old women. The women WOULD NOT leave the soldier because she was so fucking scared and trusted him.... until she went to sleep. I purposely kept her for last.. was awesome).

But what makes it so fucking hilarious is that 4 days later (real time, not game time), I'm back in the town for another mark and I go to rent a room at an inn. As I walk in there is sitting at the table, drunk off his ass, none other than the bodyguard sobbing and yelling "NOOOO Bealins dead... I loved him... nooooo!"

Absolute hilarity.

[RazielDemon]

Yeah the continuity that's built in and the interconnectedness between NPC's is very impressive.



What I meant by broken skill system is that you pretty much HAVE to select a character with a race that doesn't give you any bonusses to the skills you actualy want to train (in morrowind you had to select a class that gave you no bonusses too, but that's been rectified... in a way), otherwise you gimp your max level. You level by gaining a number of skill points (now to your prime skills only, so at least that's fixed now), so the higher your skills start, the fewer you can potentialy gain before maxing out, and the lower the number of levels that you can gain in the long term.

[Marb]

Tr

So far i love it, i went for a orc warrior type to get into it first before i go down my assassin/thief char. Fighting can be inbetween mashing the attack button to realy getting a good grip on timing attacks and using magic to back it up.

Lol I went for that immediately.

Dark Elf (+destruction/agility by nature) - Templar (Custom Class)

Birthsign: The Thief (Increased Agility for Marksmanship power.)

Major Skills:

Athletics
Blade
Destruction
Acrobatics
Light Armor
Marksmanship
Sneak - multiplying dmg ftw.

So basically I fire an arrow, and if they aren't dead yet I cast an On Target spell.. and then On Touch spell as they get too close or slap them silly with an enchanted blade harr.

[Juggalo]

I'm liking it so far.

Definitly the funniest moment I've had is one quest from the Dark Brotherhood. I had a mark to kill, cept the point was to make it look like an accident. So intest of outright killing him i snuck into his house, waited 5 hours for the right time in a tiny ass crawlhole (not unlike those theives who wait in you attic) and then loosed some fastenings on a mounted minotaur head, which promptly fell and killed him. His bodyguard rushed over and stood dumbfounded as I snuck out the door and returned to the santcuary.

Now that was fun, definitely not as fun as another dark brotherhood quest (Locked in a house with 6 people, killing them one by one, and watching them all go fucking nuts with fear. I was laughing so hard at the end b/c I had it down to 2 people. One guy who was a former soldier, who actually went and GOT his armor and weapons from a chest once it was down to 2 people which didn't help him... and a small and frail old women. The women WOULD NOT leave the soldier because she was so fucking scared and trusted him.... until she went to sleep. I purposely kept her for last.. was awesome).

But what makes it so fucking hilarious is that 4 days later (real time, not game time), I'm back in the town for another mark and I go to rent a room at an inn. As I walk in there is sitting at the table, drunk off his ass, none other than the bodyguard sobbing and yelling "NOOOO Bealins dead... I loved him... nooooo!"

Absolute hilarity.

Holy.... shit....

[mUle]

Ah, its nice to hear that you are having fun, cuz i dont got the game yt! becuse take2 is populated by retards who cant give me the game in time! i can only hope that it will arrive on monday, if it dont, im gonna sue their asses! :P

[Fragman]

Try playing on hardest setting :)

So far i love it, i went for a orc warrior type to get into it first before i go down my assassin/thief char. Fighting can be inbetween mashing the attack button to realy getting a good grip on timing attacks and using magic to back it up.

The interface hasnt been 'dumbed down' its far more streamlined, and easy to use after 30 minutes play. It does have to niggles, like the bulk selling on some items, and placing things in-out of chests etc. pysics is realy good, npcs great and the graphics are cool.

The major problem i have is my fx5950 is just not good enough to play it reasonably smooth. Im at 1024, with all the detail at lowest, and out doors it chuggs to a stop, indoors is fine, but combat can be a bit slow somtimes. Im gonna spend a long time tonight tweeking the .ini file to find the best results. But it looks like im gonna have to blow £250 on a nice new 7800gt :P
lolz 5950 im only running a softmodded 9500 pro and i play it at 25+ fps outside and 40+ inside i have no problems but im probly going to get a x1600 pro then after ut2k7 is out ill build a new rig.

[Juggalo]

what's the requirments for this beast anyway? too lazy to look it up.

[RazielDemon]

minimum graph is a Gforce 6800, it needs a bit of a monster apparently, but I run it (with low graphics settings) on my laptop which has just 1Ghz, a mobility x700 and 512 ram.

[Captain Salazar Snowberry]

Well, I've clocked 33 hours on it, started my good character Friday. I've mastered two skills. My acrobatics is at something crazy with the boots of springheel Jak on, something like 133. Let me tell you, sneaking in Daedric as never been this much fun, also, jumping across water.

But quest-wise the best I've done so far is The Ultimate Heist, and some of the Daedra quests. You should all go to the shrine of Nocturn.

But overall I'm pissed at the lack of an enchanting skill, and spell making. Also, polearms and crossbows would be nice. They should scratch the fast travel system, I liked siltstrides. And they should vary the architecture more, I always liked Halaluu and Telvani more than Imperial.

Also, I've havn't done any story quests, other then freeing Kvatch and taking dude-guy to Cloud Ruler temple.

[Outrageous Cheek]

Wait does this game have multiplayer? On PC and on the 630? And I want teh 360 version cuz I don't have that good of a freakin computer and don't know jack about em so I can't upgrade them and I'm kinda tired of snotty nerds lookin down their nose at me and talking basically in numbers about computers.

[Bentusi]

no, the elder scrolls series never has multiplayer

btw, being a full vampire makes you amazingly powerful. I cleaved my way through the final parts of the main quest with fuckin impunity.

[mOle]

Shipped today, dunno if im going to play it today, but atleast i will install it and check it out.

I will most definitly go with Battlemage this time around aswell, same as i did with morrowind

that beeing said, my battlemage was notoriusely overpowered with the stealth of a thief, melee power of a dragon on stereoids, and superb magic (althou moffensive magic was gimp, so i just used it to unlock doors from miles away aand jumping across the whole map)

[mUle]

Shipped today, dunno if im going to play it today, but atleast i will install it and check it out.

I will most definitly go with Battlemage this time around aswell, same as i did with morrowind

that beeing said, my battlemage was notoriusely overpowered with the stealth of a thief, melee power of a dragon on stereoids, and superb magic (althou moffensive magic was gimp, so i just used it to unlock doors from miles away aand jumping across the whole map)

yeah, xaani was a bit imba, are you going to call him xaani again? teh same char as in mw? im gonna make mine khajiit thief like in mw. i sure hope it ships today.

[mOle]

Xani, not two A's

and BOYA! i got it in my hand, with another map i can mount up on my wall, together with my MW map XD

[mUle]

´kay, sounds like a sound plan. :P who me? no, i havent got the game, my mom even sent me a email this morning telling me that it dident come today :( i /spit on take2

[Outrageous Cheek]

I had the dang money for the 360 and spent it on those darn Versace glasses.

[Juggalo]

I had the dang money for the 360 and spent it on those darn Versace glasses.

*smack*



minimum graph is a Gforce 6800


Awwwww.... I should go out and get the 7800 sometime.....

[DrunkenUno]

Its aight. Combat is prolly the gayest thing ever concieved in any game, ever though.

[Quietus]

Sort of like saying "aight"?

[Fragman]

the unicorn is 1337

[Juggalo]

:wtf:

[Quietus]

Except when you dismount the Unicorn in/near combat, and it goes berzerk killing all the enemies, 37 civilians/guards, and you.

[Juggalo]

LMAO! :rofl: :rofl:

[Outrageous Cheek]

Wait....the combat is bad?

[Bentusi]

only when you get mobbed, 1v1 it's very nice, 1v5 it sucks

[mOle]

haha

Class: assasin, damnd Sneak Atttacking is fun, crouch down, fire a arrow and watch the KO's hahaha

Well im a Vampire now, have fed a couple of times.
figured sunlight is bad
i have no idea how to get cured
have a 1300 cold bounty on my head
lockpicked me out of jail

just the local badass

[Quietus]

Yeah especially when you get higher, and every other attack can stagger you, even when they do two damage. I believe I have hit the armor cap in full enchanted Daedric. Everything hits me for 1-2, and they still stagger me all over the place. Destruction magic at high levels is completely stupid. Some spells take 800, 1000, even more magicka to cast, and no one can get that much in a pool to begin with. And then the spell does something shitty like 80 damage (most fights would require 2-3, or more casts).

BTW Sunlight is only bad if you haven't fed for 24 hours. Vampirism in oblivion is different than other games/sources. You only get the vampire bonuses when you don't feed (this includes vulnerability to sunlight). And with the more blood you drink, the more human you become.

[Bentusi]

you still get some stat bonus at the lowest lvl, not as much though.

[Quietus]

I think I just had one of my best Oblivion moments too. It was in the houseguest mission, where you kill the rest.

Only when they were running around freaking, trying to find out who the killer was... I wasn't the crafty ninja-like thief hiding in the corner. I was the huge warrior looking like a demon in full daedric armor wielding an immense two handed weapon. I wonder who the killer is?

[DrunkenUno]

I think I just had one of my best Oblivion moments too. It was in the houseguest mission, where you kill the rest.

Only when they were running around freaking, trying to find out who the killer was... I wasn't the crafty ninja-like thief hiding in the corner. I was the huge warrior looking like a demon in full daedric armor wielding an immense two handed weapon. I wonder who the killer is?
I dont know how you did the whole thing, but at the end of mine, the drunk alcoholic dude and the rich guy were the only 2 left alive, and i went and talked to the drunk and hes like "dude its just the 3 of us left and i know you didnt do it, we need to kill him before he kills us all!!!" And he grabs a weapon and pwns the rich guy, and then i pwned him, was great.

Oh and if you thought undead blades are hard (i killed them pretty easilly) wait til you fight Dread Zombies. I tried fighting one and he killed me, my assasin, and my summoned flame atronach. Oh well, time to run through the whole thing invisibile... again... so overpowered.

[Quietus]

Yeah Dread Zombies are a pain, mostly because of the Astral Vapors crap.

[Juggalo]

Only when they were running around freaking, trying to find out who the killer was... I wasn't the crafty ninja-like thief hiding in the corner. I was the huge warrior looking like a demon in full daedric armor wielding an immense two handed weapon. I wonder who the killer is?

oh how I can't wait until tomarrow(pay day) and I can finally get this. I can't stop laughing at that.

[mUle]

-_-, take 2 store just found out that they havent sendt me the game yet.... they sendt it NOW. i wanna go kill sombody

[mOle]

So Destruction magic is stupid at higher levels?

well im still having a blast with just touching people in bed and they fall dead, funnyest thing was when i drank someones blood and then a girl saw me, she paniced lol

Im looking fora vampire cure... i need 5 greater soul gems... i cant figure out where to get it... i got 1...

Started over as a battlemage... got some dwarwen crap, where do you get that daedric shit quiet?

edit: im t vampireism lv 8... sunlight is really, really bad and noone wanna talk to me lol

[Quietus]

You can get it as you get higher. Around level 25 random enemies started wearing it (bandits, vampires etc), and if you keep leveling past that it gets sold in stores.

Dwarven is random too, just part of the progression.

As far as heavy armor goes its pretty much like this, though I might be missing one or two types:

Iron < Steel < Fine Iron < Fine Steel < Silver < Dwarven < Ebony < Daedric

Daedric is the best for weapons and shields too.

Light armor best is glass, followed by elven, followed by mithril.

Unique NPCs don't random spawn gear though, so you could go figure out how to kill Umbra at low levels and get her gear.

Umbra's sword (one of the best easily, I still haven't found base damage higher).

And her armor is all custom ebony, only slightly worse than Daedric.

Just don't use one of the lame strategies for beating her. :)

[Bentusi]

i fully suggest that anybody good with destruction create the "telekinetic explosion" spell

shock damage 1
AOE 100ft

everything not nailed down in a shop or house goes FLYING in all directions, it gets even better when you kill off most of the guards in a town, drag their bodies to 1 spot, then cast it on that and watch them go flying!

[Juggalo]

:O oh man.. I might have to quit WoW for a bit......

[Quietus]

That sounds like it might implode some computers. :P

And yeah destruction is near useless at higher levels.

1000+ mana for a 70 damage spell. No character can get enough base to cast that once, and most fights would need several casts of that to get it done. But I'm sure it will be fixed in time.

[Captain Salazar Snowberry]

[QUOTE=Unique NPCs don't random spawn gear though, so you could go figure out how to kill Umbra at low levels and get her gear.

Umbra's sword (one of the best easily, I still haven't found base damage higher).

And her armor is all custom ebony, only slightly worse than Daedric.

Just don't use one of the lame strategies for beating her. :)[/QUOTE]

I beat her at 8. It was hard, but I just fought. I think I only one because of my high agility (no knockdowns) and the large amount of potions I carry at all times.

I would break into houses at night, steal all the food and make potions out of it, then I would steal all the other shit (clothes, silverware) and fence it.

[RazielDemon]

It's fairly easy to get greater soul gems, just steal them from the mages guilds.

[2biT]

Anyone stole ALL the food in a town and then watched the npcs panic?

[Bentusi]

2bit, the fun begins when you steal all the food and replace it with poison apples.....

have i remarked yet that my character is not a nice guy?

[DrunkenUno]

I beat her at 8. It was hard, but I just fought. I think I only one because of my high agility (no knockdowns) and the large amount of potions I carry at all times.

I would break into houses at night, steal all the food and make potions out of it, then I would steal all the other shit (clothes, silverware) and fence it.
Wheres umbra at?

And my guy is pretty pimp, dark elf, im a listener, and conjurer, so ive pretty much got myself a party consisting of me, my assassin bitch, and my conjured creature which is usually either a fire atronach or a daedra.

And cloaking is still stupid overpowered.

And my main weapon is a dwarven claymore that i used one of the oblviion gate stones on so it causes 20 health damage per hit, i just sneak up behind someone, summon my daedra/atronach, sneak attack from behind with the claymore for 6x damage bonus, and then do like 2 sidestep swings and its gg to anything.

[Bentusi]

Wheres umbra at?

And my guy is pretty pimp, dark elf, im a listener, and conjurer, so ive pretty much got myself a party consisting of me, my assassin bitch, and my conjured creature which is usually either a fire atronach or a daedra.

And cloaking is still stupid overpowered.

And my main weapon is a dwarven claymore that i used one of the oblviion gate stones on so it causes 20 health damage per hit, i just sneak up behind someone, summon my daedra/atronach, sneak attack from behind with the claymore for 6x damage bonus, and then do like 2 sidestep swings and its gg to anything.

an aylied ruin south of the capital on the bank. Vindasel i think...

[Elukka]

Argh. could i play this game on a Athlon XP 2000+ and a Radeon 9600 Pro with 256mb memory?

Oh, and i only have 512mb of ram. : /

[2biT]

I wouldnt recomend it. I had a fx5950, 3000xp, and a 1gb ram, the best i get is 17fps . It realy needs a 6800+ for it to run well.

[Captain Salazar Snowberry]

2bit, the fun begins when you steal all the food and replace it with poison apples.....

have i remarked yet that my character is not a nice guy?

Do those actually work? I took all the food out of a room and replaced a guard's food with a poison apple and he did'nt do anything after he ate it. It took him two hours or so to eat and when he was done he just sat there until his shift ended.

[Quietus]

I beat her at 8. It was hard, but I just fought. I think I only one because of my high agility (no knockdowns) and the large amount of potions I carry at all times.

I would break into houses at night, steal all the food and make potions out of it, then I would steal all the other shit (clothes, silverware) and fence it.

For a thief at level 8 it would be near impossible. She blocks almost everything, and at level 8 she would be lopping off a fourth or more of your health with each swing...

[Bentusi]

Do those actually work? I took all the food out of a room and replaced a guard's food with a poison apple and he did'nt do anything after he ate it. It took him two hours or so to eat and when he was done he just sat there until his shift ended.

they worked on me whenever i accidentally ate them...

[Juggalo]

they worked on me whenever i accidentally ate them...
http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~blackchr/pictures/owned.jpg

[DrunkenUno]

For a thief at level 8 it would be near impossible. She blocks almost everything, and at level 8 she would be lopping off a fourth or more of your health with each swing...
Took me like 5 tries at lvl 16, she hurts like FUCK and regenerates health.

[Captain Salazar Snowberry]

For a thief at level 8 it would be near impossible. She blocks almost everything, and at level 8 she would be lopping off a fourth or more of your health with each swing...

Note that I was Sir Walter Bumbler, Orc extraordinaire.

[edit]Also, his class was orc, he was actually a Nord. Who later became an expert alchemist by picking flowers and eating them.

[mUle]

what!!!!? umbra is in oblivion too!? lol!? now as a female!? wtf!? i dident hit him so hard! its rumored that "caius cossades" from morrowind is in oblivion (the game) somewhere, i recently found a guy from morrowind, he helped build that settlement in soulstheim (bloodmoon) that was realy cool. im stuck on a DB mission atm, where the quest is to kill that rude bastard in prison! but its hard, i got outside the sewers and heard the guards talk there, its just to hard to sneak around them... any hints n tips would be fine.

btw: i looove the havoc fysic, when i rob houses (i have robed all the houses in burma i think, im going for chorrol now) i rip the stuff i dont want down from the shelves so it LOOKS robbed aswell ^^

btw2: the items you find is allways imba ^^ it should be harder to find good items.

edit: btw3: make a oblivion club, tlsc division or something.

[Quietus]

Well first its a SP game, wouldn't make much of a division. :P

Most of the items you find arent superpowered, except for Umbras items at low level.

To beat that dark brotherhood mission, wait for the guards to stop talking, sneak past, then there will be a guard on the stairs. Wait for him to turn his back and move up on the right, when he turns again, jump up behind him and continue on. Easy from there.

[mOle]

well i recreated my character once more... man im tired of that... now a sneaky guy with light armor, marksman, armorer and such... figured in the other saves, my gear got fucked all the time... and it would cost like insane amounts of money to fix it, so im fixing it myself =P

But im trapped in the mythic dawn shrine, i cant figure how the fuck to get out

[mUle]

this thread is allready at 4 pages, it looks like pepole want to share their adventures. lots of cools things happen when you play TES! my friend bought a ventrilio channel just for me and my friends to sit and talk about all the things that happen in this awsome world (of power) lets make a club :D

[Captain Salazar Snowberry]

It's single player. I believe the purpose of a club is to play games with the other club members.

Morrowind had a LAN mod, with limited functionality. The only thing I saw of my friend was his head, and it was sitting on the ground underneath a table when he was in another area. So, unless they changed the way the game handles the player I doubt you'll see any multiplayer.

[mUle]

It's single player. I believe the purpose of a club is to play games with the other club members.

Morrowind had a LAN mod, with limited functionality. The only thing I saw of my friend was his head, and it was sitting on the ground underneath a table when he was in another area. So, unless they changed the way the game handles the player I doubt you'll see any multiplayer.

crapshit! oh well, better stick to my ventrilio channel then.

[Elukka]

So.. what would i need to be able to play the game, maybe with the lowest settings?

[Quietus]

-Minimum System Requirements:
* Windows XP
* 512MB System RAM
* 2 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
* 8x DVD-ROM Drive
* 4.6 GB free hard disk space
* DirectX 9.0c (included)
* 128MB Direct3D Compatible Video card and DirectX 9.0 compatible driver
* DirectX 8.1 Compatible Sound Card
* Keyboard, Mouse

Straight from the readme. That would run like complete shit though.

[Juggalo]

BestBuy sold out. Wally World sold out. EB had 3 copies but they were reserved still. I'm pissed.

[DrunkenUno]

BestBuy sold out. Wally World sold out. EB had 3 copies but they were reserved still. I'm pissed.
People still buy single player games?
o_O

pm me juggs

[Juggalo]

pm me juggs

56k still. Not gonna happen.

[Quietus]

I bought it simply to show support for the company. Shitty games don't deserve anyones money, good ones do, even SP.

[RazielDemon]

yah, it takes more effort to make a realy good SP game too methinks, so I'm actualy more inclined to support those ;)

Now quit talking about warez.

[Juggalo]

Who said anything about Warez? :ponder:

lol.

Penguin from Madagascar: You saw nothing. *shifty eyes*

I'll just go to EB tuesday(New shipments in).

[Quietus]

Wal Mart FTW.

They have had every new release for the past couple years in a day before the official release date. They even beat the local ebgames and such.

[Karmashock]

just got this game... can you ride horses?... or do you have to run everywhere?... the maps are big... and I'm thinking of going full blown mage... every weapon seems to cost money when used... but you get skill when you use magic which means it actually gets better with use... and your mana regenerates really quick...

[2biT]

yup you get a horse 5mins into the main quest. Get some repair hammers and repair your gear on your own. Only enchanted gear requires a vendor repair (you can do it as a armour perk). Sure being a mage is cool, the only downsides are you can only have 1 spell selected to cast, so switching spells can be a bit of a pain during combat, and you cant poision your spells.

[Karmashock]

the first thing that pissed me off was the piss poor face design... every face I made look like some fucking eskimo woman... what the fuck...

[RazielDemon]

Dunno what they were thinking there no, there's a lot of options, but you can't make the humans look anywhere near normal. The chins are retarded and fat and the noses are rediculessly big.


You get a horse quickly, but I generaly just use map travel... I'm too lazy to travel everywhere on foot/horse like in morrowind.

[tom]

People still buy single player games?
o_O

pm me juggs

Some people still have ethics.

OOOOO.

Not me, though. *pets photoshop, illustrator, flash, fireworks, dreamweaver*

[DrunkenUno]

just got this game... can you ride horses?... or do you have to run everywhere?... the maps are big... and I'm thinking of going full blown mage... every weapon seems to cost money when used... but you get skill when you use magic which means it actually gets better with use... and your mana regenerates really quick...
Go to the stables and steal a horse.

And magic sucks from my experience so far. My next character will be either a orc or nord warrior, those 2 handed battleaxes and mauls are nuts, and heavy armor seems ridiculous.

From my experience, these are l33t skills:
Conjuration is extremely 4tw.
Illusion magic is insane, expecially invisible, its my highest skill at the moment cause i use it all the time.
Blade skill of course.
Restoration and Mysticism are also crucial for the buffs and healing.

So my next char will have
Heavy armor
conjuration
illusion
blade
blunt
restoration
mysticism

I think... maybe block instead of blunt.

[Quietus]

You can also get Shadowmere from a quest. A Unicorn in the wild (note that it gets pissed easily, and kills everything in sight). Also, every horse at every towns stable is different, some are faster, some are stronger, etc. If you steal a horse you can't keep it though, it will simply wander off while you are in a dungeon/town/whatever.

And the only skill that really seems broken atm is Destruction magic. I highly recommend you don't take it, until there is a fix for it.

As for the faces, the reason you can't make a "normal" human face is because there are no humans in that game. Each of the races has a distinct look, and none of them are really 100% human. What I don't like is their options for facial hair. Looks completely retarded. Oh my nord has a beard, I'll just color that region of the face brown/black/blond/white with a magic marker.

Drunk, you might drop Blade and pickup another offensive weapon or Armorer. Blunt weapons deal more damage, and at 75 Armorer you can repair weapons and armor past 100, allowing them to deal more damage and offer more protection (it really does make a difference). With all that magic goodness you shouldn't need a wall to hide behind anyway.

Should always consider Light Armor though, at 100 it offers the same protection that Heavy Armor does, through its perk (with the benefit here being more inventory room because of the lightweight armor).

[Karmashock]

destruction magic doesn't work?... bah... it isn't powerful enough or what?


I haven't been playing this game much because I'm enjoying Thief 3 more...

[Bentusi]

destruction magic is ok, combine it with blade or whatever and it's very nice.

You get a spell from the mages guild questline that does 25 frost, 25 shock, and 8 fire for 12 seconds and costs only 76 magicka to use

[Karmashock]

the fact that you can only have one active spell at a time is stupid... you should be able to hot key 10 of the damn things... and when you press the hotkey, it should just CAST....


also, 3d person seems a little wonky.... I don't know... I was playing thief 3 before i got oblivion and it's 3d person is much more natural... There's also not enough interface differences in the class construction.

Each inteface should be specialized for a given class. I think the standard oblivion interface is fine for a warrior... but it lacks the proper sighting and zooming features you'd need for a ranger... and I'm afraid I'm spoiled when it comes to thieves at this point... the thief 3 interface is SOOO good. The only problem with thief 3 is that 'normal' is really easy... you have to put it on hard for the game to make sense... otherwise you can run up to someone that wants to catch you... dance in front of them for two minutes and then duck into a shadow and they'll just give up saying "must have been nothing"...


anyway, the game looks interesting... haven't really played it for more then a hour or so... so I don't know that much about it... I'm too heavily addicted to T3 at this point...

[Quietus]

You can zoom in with bows, you just need high enough skill to do so.

And no its powerful enough, just later in the game monsters have quite a large amount of HP (as you would expect, plus it scales with difficulty). A spell that does 70 direct damage costs 1000+ magicka to use, before skill is factored in. More powerful ones cost more. Even if you could reduce it by half (you cant), no character in the game can get enough magicka to cast it once, and even then you would need more than one to finish the job.

And that isn't even counting in resistances.

You can hotkey spells and abilities, you would have to press 1 for fireball or whatever, then C to cast it, 2 for invisibility, C to cast it, etc.

[Karmashock]

You can zoom in with bows, you just need high enough skill to do so.

And no its powerful enough, just later in the game monsters have quite a large amount of HP (as you would expect, plus it scales with difficulty). A spell that does 70 direct damage costs 1000+ magicka to use, before skill is factored in. More powerful ones cost more. Even if you could reduce it by half (you cant), no character in the game can get enough magicka to cast it once, and even then you would need more than one to finish the job.

And that isn't even counting in resistances.

You can hotkey spells and abilities, you would have to press 1 for fireball or whatever, then C to cast it, 2 for invisibility, C to cast it, etc.
there are a lot game mods floating around already... I'll look for one that fixes the spell issue.

[DrunkenUno]

http://www.tescreens.be/oblivionmodwiki/index.php/Category:Mods

[mOle]

i just nick a horse soemwhere usually

[Captain Salazar Snowberry]

Shadowmere is so much better than any normal horse it isn't even funny. Well it is funny, because you can actually kill the horse, making jumping off of cliffs very fun.

[RazielDemon]

I heard my horse (the priory horse) whinney a few times when I was riding allong some rough terain and thought 'oh, nice that they have him make sound (what I then thought was) randomly...' after about 5 whinneys it dropped dead. Seems he was just making sounds when I was dropping distances or hitting rocks and stuff.

[Quietus]

I put off the Shadowmere quest line, but kept buying the super fast black horses for 5k.

It's so damn annoying that any time any enemy sees a horse, they all rush to gank it, completely ignoring you and any other people attacking them.

[Captain Salazar Snowberry]

I heard my horse (the priory horse) whinney a few times when I was riding allong some rough terain and thought 'oh, nice that they have him make sound (what I then thought was) randomly...' after about 5 whinneys it dropped dead. Seems he was just making sounds when I was dropping distances or hitting rocks and stuff.

You didn't notice the little health bar dropping?

[DrunkenUno]

I put off the Shadowmere quest line, but kept buying the super fast black horses for 5k.

It's so damn annoying that any time any enemy sees a horse, they all rush to gank it, completely ignoring you and any other people attacking them.
5k for a horse? Lol

I think the most gold ive had all game is 13k, and im about to finish :(

[Karmashock]

the fact that there is no cross hair or as detailed a hud in 3rd person mode is really annoying...


I haven't been playing that much... I've just got those 4 books for the order of dawn...

I took a break on that quest betwee returning the prince and contacting that inspector to try and get full access to the magic university... but I think the quest bugged...


I can't get beyond the guy that wants me to get that 'fingers of the mountains' book for the guild... I get it for him... he's happy... he says I'll send a recomendation... but it doesn't switch to the next guild house that I need to visit. It just sticks on him... totally annoying.

how do I navagate to cities I've never been to?... ones with magic guilds...

[mOle]

you can insert crosshair karma, and cities you never been to? just teleport there. it will allow you, everywhere else? just tele to some near place and walk / horseback

i have traveled through the Main quest now, started at lv 2 or soemthing, lol its alot easyer then when i started main quest at lv 12, scamps all over instead of daedra / fire astronach all over.

All theese oblivion gates are making me fussy, if i see another one im gonna drop, ive killed off so many its not funny, its just go through and rape everything, get stone, new gate, although some of my sigil stone enhaced weapons is really awesome,,, got a deadra bow with 15 DMG drain health, pair it with a sneak > crit shot and the mob is almost dead at lv 6 or so

[Karmashock]

how do you use the sigil stones?


how do I insert a crosshair

and how do I browse for unvisted cities?

I generally don't like the interface... I think it's sloppy and limited.


I was able to get the inventory upgrade that allowed more items to be listed at a given time. But it's stupid that I can't group select items for sale... I mean... I typically have a LOT of things for sale and it's a just a lot of clicky bullshit.

[Quietus]

5k for a horse? Lol

I think the most gold ive had all game is 13k, and im about to finish :(

Yeah, 5k for the fastest horse (it's also black). 4k for the "toughest", but it still dies in a split second.

I've gone through about 8, plus my Unicorn death, 3 of the "toughest", and shadowmere has died like twice (but he respawns at fort farragut).

I'm like level 32 now, finished the game at like level 27, never had any money problems because I was playing a big tough warrior in all enchanted +str armor, and I'm a packrat. :)

[Karmashock]

I got a mod that gave me an invisibilty/speed cloak...


I LOVE IT! Everytime the game gets to some long drawn out bit that will just piss me off... I slip on the cloak and a disapear.... and move at about twice the normal speed... the enemy just stands there going "huh" as they get burned, frozen, diced, and squewered. I leave it off 98 pecent of the time... I use it almost exclusively in Oblivion gates... they're repeatitive and boring in my opinion... so I have by guy run through them at warp speed while I get the Ironic statisfaction that I'm the scarriest thing in demon world.

[Muin]

I'm currently concluding my tour with the Dark Brotherhood. It has been....interesting. By far the best quest line so far. Mind you I'm only lvl. 8 and Haven't even gone to Kvatch to close my first gate :P

The weapons and equipment they give you are amazing if your just starting out.

[Quietus]

Sure the oblivion gates are a bit repetitive until the last few, but they are also some of the hardest areas if you go about it like you are supposed to (requiring rest every few mobs).

You could always utilize spells and skills to get you through undetected, instead of cheesing your way through. :)

I do like the battle to get into Cormoran's Paradise though. It even has one of those lame braveheart type speeches, but it's still better than some movie speeches (alexander, lol).

[Karmashock]

I don't like the oblivion gates at all... they're just filled with the same angery critters over and over and over again. it's boring... they don't talk to you... you don't really get any interesting stuff... there isn't even cool music in there... it's just a bunch of rocks cooking...


So I engage my cloak/turbo mode and it's over in 5 to 10 minutes max.


I'm probably going to try the assaine guild quests now that you say they're good though (that the dark brotherhood... assasine guild...)... my death cloak would be an asset to their organization.


I tried to be a mage... but the quest bugged on me...which is just not acceptable.

[mOle]

when i get really pissed and cant do anything i just open the command line with the | and § button (the one at the start of numerical line) and type tgm... you get god mode lol

and the sigil stones, you just go in inventory, press it add item (sigil stones have one option for armor and such and one for weapons (like on one its 25 fatigue dmg and 8% shield, so i put 8% shield on a ring), then you just write in a new name, its basicly like soul gems

and for the oblivion gates, yeah i go through them like you are supposed to do, nothing hard at lv 6 in a light armor, blade / block / marksman / sneak setup, basicly a real tough warrior with stealth, as the mobs grow with you

so its CRITICAL to keep your combat skills up to date, and not level up on shit like security, because then you will be fucked when your going to combat

[mUle]

the first thing that pissed me off was the piss poor face design... every face I made look like some fucking eskimo woman... what the fuck...

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: priceless....

go to the modding community there is lots of "make faces better" mods.

http://www.oblivionsource.com/?page=modforge&op=viewproject&project_id=229

there ya go, the cool part with TES is that the construction set keeps coming back and pepole love to mod.

im head of the thiefes guild now and there is nothing to do after that, wasent there supoosed to be so that you could in vite pepole to your guild and have bodyguards and stuff? i have the gray fox hoody thing now and it roxs! everyone thinks that me and the gray fox is two different persons (even if i take it on and off before them) so if i do all my criminal stuff as the gray fox he will get the bounty, but not polar... oh no ^^

i am also a vamp and am trying to find the grand soulgems. question: do the pepole i have bitten turn into vamps?

and i have speant all my 10 levels stealing (i have 125 in sneak ^^) so i cant realy get trough the first oblivion gate, i have another character for that.

I have lost my "black Mare" or to put it otherwise: i never had it! it wasent outside that old grumphs fort of terror!

Have you done the DB quest where the objective is to kill 5 pepole at a party? i simply loved that pary, i lured then into a false sense of security and then dicieved and butched them one by one, i found out that dagger sneak attack rocks! i mean, 6x damage? thats pwnage!

-p0l4r

[Bentusi]

karma, the quest isn't bugged, you can do more in it.

Go talk to the high elf outside the mages guild if you want to continue in it, or just go to any other mages guild and talk to the person flagged as unkillable there..

and yeah, i just used the invisable spell through most of oblivion unless i was fighting dremora's

[mUle]

I found a unicorn, it goes fast as hell but when i jumped off it it started to attack a rat... then it went berzerk and killed two guards and a horse guy outside the town, i dident interfere before it attacked me though, nice loot from the guards, i found the castle key..... ah! thats why the castles was robbed blind^^
question: isent unicorns supposed to be "uncatchable" or somthing? i just walked up to it, jumped on and rode away.

btw: i have stolen a elder scroll from the royal library in the gold tower (also called... the imperial palace ^^)

[Muin]

Have you done the DB quest where the objective is to kill 5 pepole at a party? i simply loved that pary, i lured then into a false sense of security and then dicieved and butched them one by one, i found out that dagger sneak attack rocks! i mean, 6x damage? thats pwnage!

-p0l4r


Yeah, I did that quest, and It was great. One by one they went to sleep. and one by one they perished. until we got to the last 2 people, then I convinced a girl it was the other dude, and well, she didn't like him anymore.

I'm currently doing my Lucien quest, then i become the leader of the Brotherhood *cackle*


Also the Unicorn can be slain....It drops a horn...I'm not sure what it does yet.

[DrunkenUno]

Yeah, 5k for the fastest horse (it's also black). 4k for the "toughest", but it still dies in a split second.

I've gone through about 8, plus my Unicorn death, 3 of the "toughest", and shadowmere has died like twice (but he respawns at fort farragut).

I'm like level 32 now, finished the game at like level 27, never had any money problems because I was playing a big tough warrior in all enchanted +str armor, and I'm a packrat. :)
I'll finish the game at lvl 12 as soon as i go finish escorting teh emp to teh temp.

[DrunkenUno]

Yeah, I did that quest, and It was great. One by one they went to sleep. and one by one they perished. until we got to the last 2 people, then I convinced a girl it was the other dude, and well, she didn't like him anymore.
Heh, I killed both girls first. The ex-army dude was like "omgwtf im getting my armor and no one can pwn me!" So when he went upstairs I sneak killed him in his room when he got his armor. Came back downstairs, the one drunk dude trusted me and was like "its just 3 of us left, and i know its not me, and i know its not you, so it much be the rich guy! We must kill him quick before he gets us!" And he grabs a weapon and kills the rich guy, then goes finally its done... then i kill him.

[mOle]

The real trick to beating the main quest, the way i did much of it is, not gain levels =P my combat skills where like 3 levels ahead, i didnt rest, i was level 6, supposed to be level 9.... so it was rather easy. I have rested now thou, so its not as easy.

i got a kickin sigill stone enhanced akaviri katana now, wich i humbly called "Daedra Demolisher" with 20pt shock dmg on strike.... muhahahaha

Paiered with my Doom Striker bow, 15 dmg health dmg on strike bow and my Daedra Dimisher akaviri katana 5 dmg fire on strike, this makes for a good day for deadra dying.

The Arena is quite fun, i beat it with hax last time of X number of cure vampire diseas potions, as theese have 500hp recover, 500 mana and 500 fatigue, the Box outside the arena is wery hard, put pick it and it got 500 gold

As for lock picking, when the thing goes up at the same speed as your lockpick it works, no other speed, im getting quite pro and can open anything with my 13 security skill

i kindo like this game lol, aslong as you dont read many forums and such bcus i figured it fucks up my enjoyment.

Got some chainmail from one of the first Main quest, had it since level 2, the shop does not seem to sell anything but leather and fur yet so, im ahead of myself

[mUle]

here is my khajiit before he became a vamp:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3986/gossefloss9nr.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gossefloss9nr.jpg)
i look pretty neat!

[Karmashock]

and the sigil stones, you just go in inventory, press it add item (sigil stones have one option for armor and such and one for weapons (like on one its 25 fatigue dmg and 8% shield, so i put 8% shield on a ring), then you just write in a new name, its basicly like soul gems
how many sigel stones can you use on a single item in your inventory? Could I use them all on one item? Or what?
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karma, the quest isn't bugged, you can do more in it.

Go talk to the high elf outside the mages guild if you want to continue in it, or just go to any other mages guild and talk to the person flagged as unkillable there..
The city it is bugged on is the cirgriel or something like that... It's the one where you have to take that book "fingers of the mountains" off that burned guy.

Anyway, the person 'flagged' by the quest system is the leader of that guild. He's a lizard guy... and I've talked to him completely... all his conversations are grayed out. He already said that he'd rec me. Further, the "rec" conversation line isn't in his dialogue anymore.

I should be done with him. I'll look for a high elf somewhere around there... but I think it's bugged.



and yeah, i just used the invisable spell through most of oblivion unless i was fighting dremora's
Do Dremora's see invisible creatures?


The cloak has two kinds of invisibility on it. It has 1000% camoflague and invisibility... when I put it one I can't seem my character at all. Not even that slight outline that lets you 'sorta' know where invisible characters are...

[Captain Salazar Snowberry]

I should be done with him. I'll look for a high elf somewhere around there... but I think it's bugged.

If you read the quest it tells you to go to each city and seek out the mages guild. So, really all you have to do is go to each mages guild and do a quest for them.

Do you really need to rely on that little green pointer that much? You fail at doing quests. I'd like to see you try and do Morrowind quests. Some of them were literally "Head East until you get to a large rock, then swim North until you get to an island, the cave should be somewhere around there." then the guy just gives you a pat on the back and sends you on your way.

[mUle]

yeah, i spent hours on hours trying to find "the awsome hostile mudcrabs"... i dident find them on my own, i had to use a walkthrough.

[Fragman]

vampires own in oblivion, who wouldnt want to be one omg.

[Karmashock]

If you read the quest it tells you to go to each city and seek out the mages guild. So, really all you have to do is go to each mages guild and do a quest for them.
I think i have been to each one and it won't progress even though that guy said he'd rec me I guess the quest never 'actually' ended... so the end result is that I can't get into the magic school...

this is really annoying... I've been to all the other places and did their little stupid quests and nothing... damn them.

Do you really need to rely on that little green pointer that much? You fail at doing quests. I'd like to see you try and do Morrowind quests. Some of them were literally "Head East until you get to a large rock, then swim North until you get to an island, the cave should be somewhere around there." then the guy just gives you a pat on the back and sends you on your way.
that sounds annoying and lacking in fun.

[Muin]

While Morrowind was very much like that in terms of quests...(I think I took 2 days of wandering to find a guy in the middle of the ashlands) or better yet, Azura's cave. *shudder*

It really felt alot more true to life, and immersed you into the story, as it was very life like. Also, the gratification you got when you completed the quests was quite an achievement...you took the time, and you managed to succeed, without help, without any direction and just a vague hint of what you had to accomplish.

[Karmashock]

i'd get the same satisfaction out of getting a tooth pick to stand on one end... no thank you.

[RazielDemon]

Azura's cave was quite a fullfilling quest I thought yeah. You know there's a statue of azura in the northeast this time where you can get azura's star from this time... a lot of nods to morrowind, and probably earlier TES games also, interesting in its way.

[Muin]

Yeah Refillable GrandSoulGem ftw!

Just talking about Morrowind makes me want to reroll another guy on there...damn that was a good game. Especially if you had the expansions...Her hands armor was definitly the best I saw...too bad it isn't in oblivion....well not that I have found yet.

[mOle]

Instant warping sucks ass and that marking up excact where you have to go and what to do is pissing me off but i get so dependant on it. the quests feels more of a grind then a quest

[mUle]

they are nodding towards arena and daggerfall with oblivion, in the imperial city there is a arena, and the logo of this arena is the same as the TES:arena cover. and teleport (fast travel as they dare call it) horses and dogs is from daggerfall...

i love m'aiq the liar, he talks about all the things the fans wanted but dident get and other fan stuff... like crossbows and wherewolfs. quote from m'aiq the liar: Some pepole want bows that take to long to reload and needs somthing called "bolts", m'aiq thinks they are idiots" ^^

[Muin]

I really enjoyed the guy Andrso? in Cheydinhal, the drunkard who sings

"Fly! So high! like a cliffracer in the sky!" stuf like that, i nearly died laughing.

Thing about fasttravel is this..you don't necessarily have to do it if you don't want to....its just a bonus option. *shrug* If i'm feeling lazy I use it, if I have oodles of free time...such as when WoW doesn't work? i'm roaming around seeing what I can explore.

[Karmashock]

Instant warping sucks ass and that marking up excact where you have to go and what to do is pissing me off but i get so dependant on it. the quests feels more of a grind then a quest
All you have to do to turn that feature off is unlock your nav system from that quest.

You can still do the quest even if it isn't active in your nav.


Will you do it? No... because somewhere there's a part of you that doesn't like annoying bullshit.


anyway, game keeps erroing out on me at random places... tends to do it once every three hours or so...

also, my horse got killed for the first time... which made me sad... I still had that horse they gave me from the beginning... bastards...

[Muin]

Lol, I lost the horse within the first 20minutes of getting it...I just left it somewhere...who knows what happened to it *Shrug*

[Captain Salazar Snowberry]

Thing about fasttravel is this..you don't necessarily have to do it if you don't want to....its just a bonus option. *shrug* If i'm feeling lazy I use it.

Give me a fucking silt strider.

I dunno, I think Morrowind was a better game overall, for it's time. If they just remade Morrowind with the Havoc engine it would be pretty sweet.

[Muin]

Yeah you are right. I miss the Morrowind storyline, and the whole en masse feel to it. I really felt part of the story, and got into it alot of the times. However Oblivion is cool in its own part...It has its moments, and the sheer beauty of the game is something that can take ones' breath away.

Morrowind for xbox360 would just be amazing. re-release! ooooh I'd quit my job or something.

[Karmashock]

oblivion is crashing all the time... this last time it crashed Direct3D... I'll probably have to reboot to fix it...

[RazielDemon]

when I talked to m'aiq: "who wants to wield a spear when swords and maces do more damage? Though you can't shoot a fireball from a sword (Raz: staffs)" which was a bit of an odd mix of two elements, now that staffs don't have a 'polearms' thingy anymore... oh, and he probably says something about medium armour too, which is missing now.


I find it a bit of a shame that there's such easy quicktravel, but meh, just resist it :)

[mUle]

"Wherewolves? where? wolfs? men that are wolfs? many wolfs! many men! thats enaugh for m'aiq" and he also has a reference about fishysticks wich is a pic of a pirate holding a fishystick hand says "have afishystick" wich is tradition to give new members on the elderscrolls forums, i got one ^^

[mUle]

oblivion is crashing all the time... this last time it crashed Direct3D... I'll probably have to reboot to fix it...

Yeah oblivion crashes somethimes its good they implemented more auto-saving, also dont alt+tab it, it has a 60% chance of crashing if you do.

[Juggalo]

also dont alt+tab it, it has a 60% chance of crashing if you do.

... That's fucking gay

[Bentusi]

how many sigel stones can you use on a single item in your inventory? Could I use them all on one item? Or what?
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The city it is bugged on is the cirgriel or something like that... It's the one where you have to take that book "fingers of the mountains" off that burned guy.

Anyway, the person 'flagged' by the quest system is the leader of that guild. He's a lizard guy... and I've talked to him completely... all his conversations are grayed out. He already said that he'd rec me. Further, the "rec" conversation line isn't in his dialogue anymore.

I should be done with him. I'll look for a high elf somewhere around there... but I think it's bugged.



Yes, i know exactly what your talking about. There should be a high elf woman outside the mages guild during the day...

[Karmashock]

Yes, i know exactly what your talking about. There should be a high elf woman outside the mages guild during the day...
I finally bipassed him by going to every city I wasn't sure about and checking... it took awhile, but I'm now a Magician in the guild... my next assignment is to check out what happened to the Burma guild... apparently one of the members hasn't been reporting in as usual...

The main quest is finding the spies in Burma... I found one, but not the other... help!... its pissing me off... I have no leads... I don't want to ask 40 people in this town until one of them just happens to say "oh yeah go here at this time"...


Here's another question, how many guilds can I belong to? Can I belong to the fighters' guild, thieves guild, and assines guild in addition to the Magic guild?


Because... I want access to more toys...

[mUle]

Im at the same stage in the main quest as you karma, evryone i ask says "not that i know of, most pepole stay home with all the things going on in the world." maby there is a gate of oblivion outside that we have to close in order for the citizens to give me the info i want. i have closed one gate in kvatch and one outside Chorrol or somthing, the one with the almighty knights of the thorn, i also heard there is one outside anvil... do i have to lock all these and more in the mainquest?

Edit: You can join all guilds, but you have to have a clean record to do the fighers guild and you haveto get locked up in prison to join thieves guild, so you problaby want to join the leagal first, and make sure you dont get a bounty when killing an innocent.

[Quietus]

You don't have to get locked up to join the thieves guild, you simply have to get a beggar to talk about the gray fox, ask about joining, and he sends you to Armand Christophe who gives you a test to join.

You can join every guild, but there are a few quests that may cause a few small conflicts, you can work around them all though.

[Karmashock]

my invisibility cloak makes it impossible for me to get caught if I really don't want to...

i can walk right up to someone in the street and kill them and no one knows who did it... or pickpocket the king while his guards are watching...


no effect...

[mUle]

You don't have to get locked up to join the thieves guild, you simply have to get a beggar to talk about the gray fox, ask about joining, and he sends you to Armand Christophe who gives you a test to join.

Or you can just ask me, cuz iam teh Gr4y foxXxXorrZ.

[mUle]

i can walk right up to someone in the street and kill them and no one knows who did it... or pickpocket the king while his guards are watching...

King? Monarcy? i dont think so... count? yes, you must talk about a count. i pickpocked a guards armor set ^^

[Karmashock]

King? Monarcy? i dont think so... count? yes, you must talk about a count. i pickpocked a guards armor set ^^
whatever... dude on a throne who lived in a castle... the local lord... I could pickpocket the king though... I can pickpocket the thieve's guild masters if I want... it's impossible for them to detect me... Even if I make noise they just have no idea where I am... the don't even look for me... they just say "was nothing" and stand there...

[2biT]

hAx.

When i finally get my computer (steal this one from work), and i can play again, im going to walk everywhere, and deactivate the compass. Because im just sick in teh head.

Ramp the difficulty slider right up too!

[mUle]

There is no king, there is a emperor in cyrodill (although hes dead)

i bet you couldent pickpock me! i are 2 strong 4 u! (and i have a chamelon ring, although its only 40% i bet you couldent see me ^^)

[Karmashock]

my cloak robe came wiht a matching detect life/night eye/water breathing hood... and you wouldn't even see me at all... there isn't even an outline to my body when I put it on... it has camo 1000% and invisibility... and some very powerful speed enhancements... I can out run most horses with it on... one of the main reasons I don't wear it when I'm doing normal stuff. I only put it on when I think I might die or I'm getting bored with an oblivion gate... or I don't have my horse and I really want to get somewhere fast...

[mOle]

omg, JOO ARE LIEK HARRY POTTER!

and no, 1 sigil stone per thing

and "tgm" is fun aswell as that command that takes collisions away so you can get pass stupid things.

If you never sleep and just keep rising your combat skills you could destroy everything this game tosses at you. But with this sort of games, playing it the way its ment to be works best

[Muin]

yeah and don't use the console...or money dupe...because after all, Your only ruining the experience of the game...Sure you can have hundreds of thousands of dollars...

I'd rather earn it. I picked up "eyes of Reklash?" Detect life 40yards constant effect (Heavy Armor)

I feel like I cheat now when I'm in a dungeon. Pink outlines through walls hehe...goodtimes.

[mOle]

yeah, like, your only chating yourself, noone else cares

[Karmashock]

some game elements aren't fun for me... and without time savers like my cloak I wouldn't play the game at all.

[mUle]

you can mod some more stuff your selves youknow? use the CS its great, and easy.

[Karmashock]

you can mod some more stuff your selves youknow? use the CS its great, and easy.
the cloak was a mod I dled...

[Bentusi]

I finally bipassed him by going to every city I wasn't sure about and checking... it took awhile, but I'm now a Magician in the guild... my next assignment is to check out what happened to the Burma guild... apparently one of the members hasn't been reporting in as usual...

The main quest is finding the spies in Burma... I found one, but not the other... help!... its pissing me off... I have no leads... I don't want to ask 40 people in this town until one of them just happens to say "oh yeah go here at this time"...


Here's another question, how many guilds can I belong to? Can I belong to the fighters' guild, thieves guild, and assines guild in addition to the Magic guild?


Because... I want access to more toys...

had same probablem, continue checking the house of the 1st spy during the day. iirc the other one shows up eventually.

[Karmashock]

inside, outside, in the tunnels, out side the tunnel?

you're sure during the day? not the night?

[mUle]

http://www.elderscrolls.com/downloads/updates_utilities.htm go here and dowload the TES:CS mand mod stuff on you own

edit: and the first official plugin is available at https://obliviondownloads.com/StoreCatalog_ProductList.aspx?SubCategoryId=1 too, gotta buy them tho

[Bentusi]

inside, outside, in the tunnels, out side the tunnel?

you're sure during the day? not the night?

inside, not the tunnel.

It was either there or the place where you kill the 1st spy.. 75% sure it was in the house.

[Quietus]

Interestingly enough, my dad just showed me how to "lockpick" IRL.

It's much easier than in the game, and I don't break 76 picks trying to open a "very hard" chest.

[RazielDemon]

I rather like the lockpicking minigame, got security as one of my major skills too, being the thief that I am... yet to murder anyone though, might still go for the DB story arc later on.

[Quietus]

No real point in getting security as a major, especially once you get the Skeleton Key.

[Karmashock]

I think the lockpicking minigame is bunk... thief 3 has a much better minigame... I don't like that the picks break...

[Quietus]

I like that it allows a person with 5 skill pick very hard locks, given they are good enough at the minigame.

I dislike that even with 80 skill I can go through 2 dozen picks on an easy lock.

[Karmashock]

which is again why thief three's system is better...

[mOle]

The second spy, ifound him where i killed the first one, during dusk

[Muin]

Find the Skeleton Key then, you'll never have a lockpick break ever again.

I got to the point where i just saved it every time I wanted to unlock something and would just keep reloading if I broke one...It is definitly annoying.


I found though as a tip, that if you press the tumbler up, and it goes up the same speed as your lockpick? more likely then not it'll work.

[Karmashock]

So I'm head of two guilds... which was cool for the mage's guild... but sucked for the thieves guild... after you complete the thieves guild quests all the fences and underworld contacts disapear... what the hell...

[mOle]

I found though as a tip, that if you press the tumbler up, and it goes up the same speed as your lockpick?

yeah, im quite good at this now, i rarely ever have a pick break even on Wery Hard

[mUle]

Yeah, i was quite dissapointed with the thives guild end too, nothing happend, you couldent do anything... i thought i could recruit thives to my guild and go gurillja warfare... :( i want war! not with deamons, i want war with humans

[Karmashock]

I open all my locks with magic... No picks... no waiting... just a brief mana drain..

[RazielDemon]

Some people still like to RP characters... these are RPG's after all ;)

[Karmashock]

if the game were perfectly designed then so would I... however, elements that are poorly implimented are bypassed by me.

besides... my mage is 'role playing' when he casts a 30 foot wide unlock spell that I can cast on a room without having the lockpick game come up by accident if I forget to cast 'unlock' on the fifth chest...



Does anyone know where to get the really big soul gems?... I can't seem to find them... one would think there would be a way to get an unlimited supply so long as you could pay for it.

[RazielDemon]

Dunno, got azura's star yet?


Oblivion is actualy very crappy as an RPG. None of your descissions realy mean a damn thing, it's an action game, but I don't want to restart my character now and I like the story arcs so meh :)

[Karmashock]

the thing that is pissing me off the most... today... is that I can't make super enchanted items...

it's a generally poorly implimented feature... sure, its only useful if you're in the mage guild, but they could have had magic sellers enchant stuff for you too... at a cost...

If I have enough souls and experence/mana then I should be able to make objects of equal or greater power to anything you just happen to pick off of someone.


And as is, you can't... it's weak.


In addition the whole leveling system is kind of messed up especially for mages... enemys seem to gain life faster then your spells become more powerful or magic pool increases...

[Karmashock]

I found some great mods that let me make any kind of enchanted item I want without having to go to the Oblivion contruction set... :D

[mOle]

so i just searched ingame in the command lines

modded all my skills to 250+ (there is a certain cap where they go back to 0, just not quite sure what it is)

slept to like, level 43, deadra now tend to drop daedric armor, so i look wicked

everywhere i fight, its a epic battle of basicly me vs 6-7 deadroths++

godmode on, firing destruction spells and swining my ebony claymore like its no tomorrow

its fun XD, i was bored one evening, and i play other games way too much to play this game, but i really wanna do the main quest and some others as i find theese wery entertaining story-wise, so this let me do it without much troubles ^^

im a killer machine, fuck with me i fuck you up. i will move a fucking planet just to stomp you with it, you cant run as i double your speed in sneaking mode, i can use all armor, infinite mana, amazing spells, no mods, all netural, i have more gold then you can ever imagine from all my deadric sets that i sold, i cant get overencombered, my arrows are infinite, who am i? i am, god

[Muin]

I was going to say Chuck Norris. But them jokes are old.

[Karmashock]

I modded the game so you can add paralize to enchanted items...

Do you know how cool it is to paralyize 99 percent of the people you come in contact iwth every time time you hit them your sword?


Most of the mods I got into involve opening up the enchant part of hte game... it's way way way too restricted.

[mOle]

hah.

its much more fun to be master archery and knowck everyone so that they are lieng on the floor after almost every hit

[Karmashock]

never got into arrows... they ran at me too fast... heck, I could only use magic because it'd spawn some creature for them to mess with...

[mOle]

they dont run wery fast, when paralyzed on the ground

[Muin]

I love shooting arrows at everyone...having them come at me with all sorts of arrows sticking throughout their body is just to much fun...

[mOle]

personality, merchantile and that other charisma thing is also great, i can steal, shoot people and the guards are just "i see your in some problems here, but since we are friends ill take care of that fine for you"