Whats your IQ? And how IQ tests are silly

[tom]

Ok I took two different IQ tests from two different websites and recieved two different results.

Result A: 135 http://web.tickle.com/tests/uiq/index-pop.jsp?sid=&supp=&z=

Result B: 157 http://www.iqtest.com

According to site A, I am a great philisophical mind or something, and according to site B, I am an extraordinary genius.

You have to give both your email address, but it only takes like a minute to register for both. Just give them your spam email if you're worried about spam.

Now, the question is, am I a genius? Yes, of course I am. :nod:

[Morpheus]

The highest score I've ever got on online IQ tests was 171, out of 4 I took.

[NeBuLaDiStOrTiOn]

I took one before... I got 119. :(

[eXoRciSt]

131, for my age, im not lying when i tell you im kinda smart in real life.

it was on the iqtest one

[Bentusi]

Online IQ tests are bullshit.

[tom]

Demon proves it ;)

J/k, but IQ tests really don't show "intelligence", be they online or not. Intelligence isnt limited to test-taking or quickness of thinking or mental processing.

[Justice]

There are many different types of intelligence.

Which is why IQ tests are, as with most other tests, B.S.

cheers, and
-=</|awesomeparty|\>=-

[Polaris]

i got a 136 on the first one
and the second one still hasnt emailed me....
ha, stealth! i beat you!

[/<yle]

so fucking what? it dosent proove shit. People are smarter in different areas. Some fucking theory in bullshit Psychology. sorry, jsut got back and im hungover

[Shackled Phoenix]

128, from a real IQ test.

[/<yle]

all it gauges is how fucking well you will do in the American Public school system. it so much fking bs

[Shackled Phoenix]

actually IQ and the standardized test for it was invented by an english dude. and rather than test knowledge it tests your ability to solve logical problems.

having an IQ of 158 doesn't exactly make a person smart. it just means he could be.

[MVB]

My RL IQ is 160-something as I recall, I can't remember the exact # in that range.

Doesn't mean shizznickies. All it means is I have less excuse for doing stupid things.

[Shackled Phoenix]

i hate you and want to slap you MVB. 160 something is like literally uber genious

[MVB]

You and I both said it doesn't mean anything.

[MVB]

Ques, are you on? I need you to sign the guild's charter in Dalaran if you are.

[Forsaken]

163 on the online test (EDIT: iqtest.com), 161 IRL

[Karmashock]

It's actually designed to help schools understand to what degree the children need to 'helped' out. It's supposed to be a your intellectual age divided by your actual age. The point of which is to tell educators who should be moved out or taken aside and helped.

It has no real meaning aside from that.


I went through a two week 'test' when I was trying to get into a really good private school... they didn't have good records on me so they put me through this ridiculous test... it was everything from mazes, blocks, to essays, to pictures, to reading, to math, to science, to problem solving, morality questions...

I was half expecting them to probe me for my core temperature.

They didn't have a final number for that... they had like... 50 final numbers... As I remember I was exceptional at problem solving and demonstrated a rare ability to think in three dimensions... apparently only one in thousand can do that... my reading comprehension was also 'perfect'... I think I did average on everything else.

Whatever… I got in the school, which was all I cared about. :)

[Ummon]

IQ does not evaluate your capability to translate symbols and languages, therefore people like me who have a talent for that specifically are generally heavily underrated if compared to their overall performance in life. It also gives no evaluation of your social skills-willpower-emotional stability, all useful things in RL. It's a test oriented on the mathematics-linguistics(in the sense of basic understanding)-spatial axis, and should be considered a general guideline, with a limited scope, and an outdated outlook on the nature of intelligence, but still useful.

157, by the way.

[eXoRciSt]

Ques, are you on? I need you to sign the guild's charter in Dalaran if you are.

lol u just tried uber hijacked this thread forum terrorist.

[Karmashock]

IQ does not evaluate your capability to translate symbols and languages, therefore people like me who have a talent for that specifically are generally heavily underrated if compared to their overall performance in life.
Not all IQ tests are the same... most actually make that a center of the evaluation. The SATs are a form of IQ test given to students in the US. It evaluates reading comprehension, logic, and math. There are also add on tests that can measure historical knowledge/understanding, physics, writing ability etc. These are IQ tests even if they don't ask your age as the age is assumed. They are taken depending on what you're doing at two times... when you're going to high school for the first time or when you're going college. At either point the average age is so similar as to render the question immaterial. I cannot comment on tests given in Italy, but assume they have similar tests which are also technically IQ tests.

It also gives no evaluation of your social skills-willpower-emotional stability, all useful things in RL.
Nor does it test your physical strength but none of these things are intelligence. Even creativity is not really a form of intelligence... what part of it is intelligence is called 'problem solving'.

It's a test oriented on the mathematics-linguistics(in the sense of basic understanding)-spatial axis, and should be considered a general guideline, with a limited scope, and an outdated outlook on the nature of intelligence, but still useful.
The point of the test is not to see who is better then someone else. It is to see who needs help in school or not. If you score low it doesn't mean you're stupid... it means that you need help. If you get a high score then it means you should be moved into a more advanced class.

[Larsson7]

A smart man once said - Show me your bank balance and I will tell you how clever you are.

This man is correct.

I would rather have an IQ of 125 and a bank balance of $10,000,000 than an IQ of 155 and a bank balance of $10.

[LardGibs]

135 on tickle; 131 on a comprehensive one from a psychologist.

Don't ask about the MMPI :errr:

[00025]

168 on a real IQ test in University of Santo Thomas, Manila.

I only got 133 on the first link, 177 on the second.

[Ummon]

Did you take the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Test Lard?

[LardGibs]

I said don't ask about it! :rofl:

yes I did.

PM me for the details, it's right up your alley.

[Abyss]

all it gauges is how fucking well you will do in the American Public school system. it so much fking bs

Where they will just expell your kids and thow u in cuffs for giving ur daughter jell-o to sell for x-mas money.

[/<yle]

yeah, im sick of our fking school system sometimes. Fuck aristotle and his fucking science. Rationalism all the way! :O

[Justice]

School still does have its uses, though. A lot of students complain about school and going to school, but face it .... what would you be without it? Would you have any friends that you met in school? Doubt it. Would you have a social life if school suddenly disappeared? Doubt it. Would your parents be very happy that you stayed home all day doing nothing? Doubt it.

Then you get to home schooling, which is a different matter entirely.

cheers, and
-=</|awesomeparty|\>=-

[tom]

School still does have its uses, though. A lot of students complain about school and going to school, but face it .... what would you be without it? Would you have any friends that you met in school? Doubt it. Would you have a social life if school suddenly disappeared? Doubt it. Would your parents be very happy that you stayed home all day doing nothing? Doubt it.

Then you get to home schooling, which is a different matter entirely.


Totally right justice. Before public schools, people never met other people.

[Justice]

...

How you met new friends, usually?

In school.

If you take away school, people will have to adapt. The people that they became friends with, most of the time, would never have been their friends if they didn't go to school.

cheers, and
-=</|awesomeparty|\>=-

[Karmashock]

A smart man once said - Show me your bank balance and I will tell you how clever you are.

This man is correct.

I would rather have an IQ of 125 and a bank balance of $10,000,000 than an IQ of 155 and a bank balance of $10.
an interesting point... "wealth" is the single best 'economic' indicator of intellegence... NOT income. So 10,000,000 in the bank is pretty smart... a million a year however doesn't mean much when you spend 999,000 dollars every year and stash a thousand away for a rainy day. :D

Rock stars and movie stars tend to make loads... but they also tend to 'leak' money like only fools can.

[eXoRciSt]

Rock stars and movie stars tend to make loads... but they also tend to 'leak' money like only fools can.

*er hem* Latrell Sprewell *er hem*

[Karmashock]

This guy?... please tell me you're not saying he's smart... I can't stand smart people that dress like tards...
http://espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/0858.jpg

[eXoRciSt]

No, he cant afford to feed his family on a 9 million salary, go figure.

[Karmashock]

I would totally just laugh in his stupid face if he told me that...

[Bentusi]

"But Coach! Between my new cars and 'bling bling' thats like.. only 20 dollars for food!"

"A mans gotsta eat coach!"

-----> this has been a stereotypical message from Bentusi

[Polaris]

proof that IQ tests are not very accuarte for everything:
i got a 133 on the second one
although i think it was because of the timing thing

[KPR[X-303]]

184 each time

[MVB]

BS

Before you post a fake IQ, look up the rarities and percentiles.

[KPR[X-303]]

Dude dont try to act smart with me your just assuming what you see when you know nothing

[Spulm]

lol keeper! he's not the only one.

[KPR[X-303]]

Mmm why did i come back oh yes i thought people had grown up..

[MVB]

You are 15, Keeper; you have years of growing up to do. Don't be ashamed of your actual IQ; anywhere over 140 ffs is amazing. There's no need to make them up.

Of course, I'm sure you th ink I'm just bs'ing, like when you screamed at me that I was a liar for saying I played Dawn of War on a laptop.

[Ummon]

Besides 185 for a 15 year old is not only rare, it's near-unique. If Keeper had a grade in Physics or Engineering though, that might be accurate! :rofl:

[RazielDemon]

Last few official tests I did I averaged 139. /brag mode

[Justice]

probably B.S.

cheers, and
-=</|awesomeparty|\>=-

[Forsaken]

IIRC on most online tests 180 is the ceiling limit?

P.S. Ummon...what is the rarity of 161 for a 15 year old? Thats what the IRL noninternet IQ was. I excel in math and discerning patterns, but I'm not very good at thinking in 3d/depth perception.

[Ummon]

161 is rare even in adults, very rare in kids. The average IQ raises with age infact.

My trust for an intelligence evaluation though lies much, much more in graphology: quicker, more accurate, more well-rounded, and more fun to administer.

[Forsaken]

I don't know about well rounded lol...math has always been my strongest point. I haven't taken notes in math for the past 3 years, don't listen to lectures, basically do work from other classes and just do the hw thats given to me...never failed to get As on all tests, finals, etc. Math just comes natrually to me.

The most difficult thing for me is language. Part of it might be the high school language teaching methods, but I'm pretty sure that I'm just not very good at straight out memory retention. To go back to the math example, I swear that I don't remember the quadratic formula. If I ever need to solve a quadratic, I either factor it in my head or derive it by completing the square w/ vars, but I've never actually memorized it.

[Ummon]

It's the same for me with tongues, I never study grammatics, I just learn them by reading/listening. It's difficult to tell where exactly a talent is located, and what are its limits, though. Our brain uses its abilities to cover multiple functions.

Anyway, graphology allows for complete evaluation of a subjects intellectual capabilities, that's what I meant with well-rounded.

[KPR[X-303]]

Unfortunatly for you i didnt make mine up

think about it may be rare but that doenst mean its not possible

[KPR[X-303]]

Also just incase you didnt know patience is a virtue most people rusht hrough the test because its quite stressing\

plus its not like youll ever know how i really do act off these forums lol

[Burned]

On the first one i had 124, actually the description it made of my mind is qite accurate.It said i was gifted for maths, and its the truth, since little ive liked maths and ive been able to resolve very complicated problems.I failed mostly in the language questions( english aint my first language and i invented most of those questions) where as in the maths questions im pretty sure i didnt miss any.And yeh, i did the test in 4 mins 30 secs

Btw, we did an IQ test in my school and i had 148 :banana:

[/<yle]

Ummon, i was told that IQ decreased with age, because as you got older, you had to know exponentially more stuff.

[Akathrielah]

Snicker, IQ tests measures your aptitude in.... taking I.Q tests, congrats. :p

/Yes I got a high score when I was a child, yes I allowed it to get to my head, and yes I've fucked myself over several times cause of it. Bitter? Me? Noooo. :p

[Ummon]

It's quite complicated in truth. There are absolute and relative figures: the IQ DECREASES with age after the 25th year, but during developement it increases in absolute (if you use the same type of tests for all age cathegories), generally it should stay the same, but it may even decrease relatively (if you swap tests according to age cathegories, the child may perform worse in the new test than he did in the old, easier ones). From 15 to 25 there is a plateau, the IQ slightly increases then slightly decreases. The decrease is caused by loss of capabilities.

For childhood/teen age the tables I have stop at 150.

With children in particular it is necessary to calculate the "Cognitive Age" of the child, and then evaluate the IQ with an age-specific test. I have one book on IQ somewhere, it takes approximately 260 pages to describe the procedure and uses. I am a holist by nature, I believe in powerful theories, not precise instruments, that's why I favour graphology which can be used to evaluate intelligence, emotional capabilities, perform psychological diagnose, and diagnose some organic diseases too. Of course graphology's use is severely limited on children. It's because of the fast-paced evolution of their brain/personality. Therefore IQ is a much better instrument for the necessities of the educational system.

Finally, Keeper makes constant spelling mistakes and misses all punctuation, and this allows us to EXCLUDE that he has a 184 IQ, since 1/3rd of the IQ test is about linguistic skills...

[LardGibs]

I think what has been revealed in context is that he sat there and worked out every problem on the online tests at his leisure.

gg.

go take a real one w/a psychologist and we'll see if it comes back 184..

[Justice]

Yeah.

I would only trust a real, in-person IQ test.

cheers, and
-=</|awesomeparty|\>=-

[/<yle]

I dont give a damn, i know im smart, at least clever. Its just something that yuppies do to try to lord over other people.

[Justice]

"Clever" is not the same thing as "smart."

Just like "wisdom" is not the same thing as "intelligence."

In all truth, I think "intelligence" is completely arbitrary ... I think everybody is smart in their own special way (for instance, people with learning disabilities had to go around those obstacles and learn how to overcome those challenges; I think that's pretty smart .... also, people who are absolute geniuses at math but are horrendous when it comes to history may be "smart" in one field and "stupid" in another).


cheers, and
-=</|awesomeparty|\>=-

[Forsaken]

OK watch as keeper gets pwned.

']184 each time

which allows us to assume that you took both tests.

']Also just incase you didnt know patience is a virtue most people rusht hrough the test because its quite stressing


If you average more than twenty seconds to respond to each of the questions, your IQ Score will be lower. (During the test, you must read and respond to a total of 38 statements in thirteen minutes or less. If you take longer, you will be penalized, or if you get through the test in less time than thirteen minutes, your score will be increased.)

I also believe that the chance you got the exact same score on both tests is incredibly low.

Perhaps you could forward the email that you recieved as well?

[Polaris]

ya, that time penalty thing killed my second test

[vacio]

These test are just silly. Nuff said.

[KPR[X-303]]

Means everytime ive done an iq test i never said i took both of yours

[Papa Smurf]

LIAR

184 what a load of shyt that would just about make you the smartest person on the planet, once again keeper you prove yourself to be totally full of shit.

So which IQ rate was it based on if you have done a real one infact two then you would more than likly know this, is it the Wechsler IQ scale, or the Stanford-Binet IQ scale? who conducted this these test on you?

with a score of 176 you are smarter than 99.9999% of the population, thus putting you in the top 0.0001% now lets take this a stage further 6 billion people in the world, now divide that by 100 then multiply that by 0.0001, and whats your answer? 6000, so you are one of the 6000 smartest people on the planet. I refer you again to my opening statement, and you are saying you are a whole 8 points above this which at a guess would put you some were in the top 1500 people in the world, do me a favour if you are going to be a liar at least do it in a manour that people will believe, all this goes to prove you are more than likely alot lower than that.

I will not flame you here as i will get this post deleted, but know this keeper it is very obvious you are lying, and saying things like well it is possible is no form of defense.

http://members.shaw.ca/delajara/NormalCurveRod.gif

[KPR[X-303]]

Smartest? No 200 would be the smartest and IQ doesnt measure how smart you are just your potential for completing and solving expodential numbers, equations, and problems. And no i don't lie.
And whats with having 184? Maybe i really am in the top 6000 it is possible or are you saying no one is in the top 6000 if you say that then i cant be in it if you dont then that would mean i could be in it and i might be one of the smartest people, hell i read the dictionary because i get bored and i read alot and i use computers alot it could show that i am quite intelligent so really you didnt proove me wrong or falsify my statement you simply showed that i could be one of the smartest or it might just be because im good at solving whats on the iq tests

[KPR[X-303]]

The whole state had people come in to the schools and test them numerous times ive been tested 4 times my life

[KPR[X-303]]

I do not lie think what you may but i do not lie about conversations or statements in this magnitude

[Papa Smurf]

No incorrect again 200 is not the smartest, people have very very occasional gone off the scale, again you show your ignorance so tell me which societies have you been signed up for with an IQ 184 they would be beating your door down, what special events have you been to? I have a lowly IQ of somewhere between 142-148 on the Wechsler IQ Scale.

WAIS CLASSIFICATION, %ile in the general population
descriptions, | standard deviation
High-IQ societies, | | IQ SD-15 - WAIS, WISC
v = "here and down" | | | SD=16 - Binet, CTMM, Otis-Lennon
| | | |
PROFOUND RETARD.---v .13e-8 | 00 -07 IQ SD-23.7 - Cattell (Verbal)
SEVERE RETARD.-----v .29e-4 -5.00 25 20 | SAT Verbal
MODERATE RETARD.---v .0031 -4.00 40 36 | | GRE Verbal
MILD RETARD.-------v .13 -3.00 55 52 | | | Miller Analogies
BORDERLINE RETARD.-v 2.3 -2.00 70 68 | | | | SAT (old) Verbal+Math
DULL-NORMAL--------v 9.1 -1.33 80 79 | | | | | ACT Composite**
AVERAGE------------v25.0 -0.68 90 89 | | | | | |
general pop. ave.---50.0 0.00 100 100 100 340 | | | |
high sch. grad ave.-60.0 +0.25 104 104 106 370 | | 790 19
70.0 0.53 108 108 112 410 | | 860 21
BRIGHT-NORMAL------v75.0 0.68 110 111 116 430 | | 910 22
80.0 0.83 112 113 120 450 420 | 940
college grad ave.---84.1 1.00 115 116 124 470 440 38 980 23
90.0 1.29 119 120 130 500 470 43 1040 24
SUPERIOR-----------v9l.O 1.33 120 121 132 510 480 44 1060 25
93.0 1.47 121 122 135 530 500 47 1100 26
Ph.D. & M.D. ave.---95.0 1.63 125 126 139 550 530 52 1150 27
97.0 1.87 128 130 145 580 580 60 1190 28
VERY SUPERIOR------v97.8 2.00 130 132 147 590 600 65 1220
Mensa, Camelopard-v98.0 2.06 131 133 149 600 610 66 1230 29
Intertel, TOPS-----v99.0 2.33 135 137 155 640 670 74 1310 31
Poetic Genius------v99.5 2.57 139 141 161 670 710 81 1360 32
99.7 2.74 141 144 165 690 730 84 1390
99.8 2.88 143 146 168 710 740 86 1420 33
ISPE---------------v99.9 3.09 146 149 173 730 760 89 1450 34
99.95 3.29 149 153 178 750 780 91 1480 35
99.97 3.43 151 155 182 760 790 92 1500
WAIS-III ceiling 99.98 3.54 153 157 184 770 800 93 1510
(IQ 155) 99.99 3.73 156 159 188 780 94 1530
99.995 3.90 158 162 192 790 95 1540
Prometheus---------v99.997 4.02 160 164 195 800 96 1550
99.998 4.10 162 166 197 97 1560
99.999 4.27 164 168 201 98 1570
99.9995 4.42 166 171 205 1580
99.9997 4.53 168 172 207
99.9998 4.61 169 174 209 1590
Mega---------------v99.9999 4.75 171 178 212 1600 36
99.99995 4.89 173 178 216
99.99997 5.00 175 180 218
99.99998 5.07 176 181 220
99.99999 5.20 178 183 223
99.999995 5.33 180 185 226
99.999997 5.42 181 187 228
99.999998 5.50 182 188 230
99.999999 5.61 184 190 233
99.9999995 5.73 186 192 236
99.9999997 5.82 187 193 238
99.9999998 5.88 188 194 239
99.9999999 6.00 190 196 242

I have highlighted your score this is taken from IQ resources at http://www.webenet.com/iq.htm the basis for the last one was very genreal taken from the basic society entry scores this however is an offical research site which actually puts you in the top 60 people in the world, my appologise for the mistake Mr Hawkins you LIAR, but i do not have an IQ of 184 and neither do you.

I will add further proof you are a liar later but as these have to be quick in between calls as i am in work.

EDIT:
Right i further piece of proof you are a liar and this is unrefutable and i will leave it at this i can not believe I did not think of this earlier and put this load of crap to bed.

The standard test is the Wechsler IQ Scale or WAIS-III (this is like a revision name as IQ scores on avegage go up by 3 points every 10 years) as it is technically called this with out a doubt is what you would of been given at school if you were given one at all.

So far you have no mentioned any special circumstances or tests that you would of taken, and therefore i assume if yo come back with oh yeah i did i just forgot to mention them will look very weak, but the Wechsler IQ Scale or WAIS-III only goes to 155 any score above this is considered unreliable (as stated by Dr Wechsler) and you would of been asked to do a diffrent test i have highlighted the WAISIII ceiling for you too on the diagram above so how on earth did you get this results? You would of had to be tested by a qualified phycologist to have an official result of that magnatude again i call you a

LIAR

you can look all this up i am pretty certain i am right.

http://hiqnews.megafoundation.org/Definition_of_IQ.html

so tell me your lies again!

[KPR[X-303]]

What do you mean incorrect "again"? i havent been incorrect or lied yet but if you keep accusing me ill simply make it so i dont have to see you or your thoughts. Im not into the whole thing and the state didnt regard the iq as intelligence simply the speed that they can calculate knowledge besides i already can type 156 words per minute if i want to

[Papa Smurf]

eeeemmmm typing is a skill and is no basis of any intelgence test i have herd of hahahahahahahahaha you make me laugh more and more, in fact i think i have kacked my pants laughing so much.

[Papa Smurf]

nor is spelling lol

[Ummon]

Nope, word recogniction, anagrams and other language tests are used to evaluate the IQ.

Of course he is lying, no reason to go on. :noshen:

[KPR[X-303]]

But the fact that you can type fast would mean you would have very quick responces which would mean that you could be very quick in calculations and other programs diagrams and equations also stop saying im lieing where in hell is that mute button

[Karmashock]

again... pointless outside of education... none of these tests have any meaning outside of that setting...

if you want to talk REAL intellegence then it takes a battery of tests that will take WEEKS to complete. anything else is just quick survey for your teacher.

[KPR[X-303]]

Ok im not a lier stop saying i am im not and gain a brain alright this is really pathetic i already know what my iq is and you just dont believe that someone like me could have an iq that fast lol then who does no one? Your going to eventually meet smart people like me and your going to eventually insult them again for now your muted squelched zapped striked killed removed replaced BYE!

[Elysium]

for some1 with an iq of 184 you sure do make a lot of grammer mistakes, and its even your mother tongue.

OMGWTFPWN any1 ?

[Justice]

Ok im not a lier stop saying i am im not and gain a brain alright this is really pathetic i already know what my iq is and you just dont believe that someone like me could have an iq that fast lol then who does no one? Your going to eventually meet smart people like me and your going to eventually insult them again for now your muted squelched zapped striked killed removed replaced BYE!

With a post like that containing such pathetic spelling and trash grammar, I can't possibly see your IQ going over 120.


cheers, and
-=</|awesomeparty|\>=-

[Papa Smurf]

You are with out doubt a total idiot, you are obviously completely clueless.

120 that quite optimistic aint it Justice, i think you got one of the numbers right, the 2 :yech: :yech: :yech: :yech: :yech: :jig: :jig: :jig: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[KPR[X-303]]

Im stressed

[Ummon]

Small advice Keeper, stop lieing about your IQ, post your excuses for doing it, and your stress will vanish.

[KPR[X-303]]

I dont lie so now your ignored Sigh

[Papa Smurf]

at this rate keeper you'll only be able to talk to yourself, probably best that why anyhooo. LMFAO

[Bentusi]

ok.

We all agree that keep's IQ is almost certainly not 184.

No need to harp about it, the threads courting a lock

[KPR[X-303]]

Well you all think it isnt but it is but im not gonna argue about what i know is the truth