View Full Version : Holocaust is a 'myth': Iran's Ahmadinejad
Karmashock
Dec 14, 2005, @ 08:14 AM
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/14/051214075349.kfyauqdq.html
This is just the president of iran saying AGAIN, that the holocaust was a myth and israel should be moved to europe OR America (the america bit is new, he said before just europe).
I thought he was going to retract this, but he's going on the way with it.
considering that you go to jail in austria for saying that, this is fucking funny shit.
Tank0
Dec 14, 2005, @ 11:45 AM
yep it is illegal overhere too , this guy is making a lot of people very nervous .
america has his hands full
europe is powerless
and israel can t afford action in the middle of a much needed peaceproces.
as many people joined the ranks of the US to stop the extremists the WoT has also given osama many allies he didnt have before . and those who dont support osama now see the need for a muslim superstate .
just as europe woke up totally unprepared and began rearming the dictators realised they aren t safe in their palace .
i am sorry to say that this seems to be a new armsrace ....... on the plus side it will boost economy in a few years time
we ll all die rich :lol:
Karmashock
Dec 14, 2005, @ 11:51 AM
our military recruiters have finally started to improve their numbers... and our army is likely to expand...
as to Iran specifically, I think we can expect a joint opperation by the US and israel... perhaps we might get some extra powers in on it.
DrunkenUno
Dec 14, 2005, @ 05:20 PM
europe are pussies
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Apocalypse
Dec 14, 2005, @ 07:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tank0
europe are pussies Except UK
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Karmashock
Dec 15, 2005, @ 02:18 AM
you can't say europe is powerless. They have men. They have technology. They have money.
So why are they so weak? What do you call someone that has all the ability to do something and yet never does?
It's annoying.
elliot/obee1
Dec 15, 2005, @ 02:38 AM
i love people in denial.......
Wicksy
Dec 15, 2005, @ 06:02 AM
you can't say europe is powerless. They have men. They have technology. They have money.
So why are they so weak? What do you call someone that has all the ability to do something and yet never does?
It's annoying.Feeble, that's what I call it. Feeble minded more than anything, but they are feeble militarily as well.
But they could do things like slapping economic and political sanctions on rogue states like Iran, that would help greatly. They should put up a united front with the US, instead of cowering behind the UN like pussies. And I include the UK in this as well - we unfortunately do our own fair share of cowering.
Feeble. Just feeble.
Karmashock
Dec 15, 2005, @ 06:52 AM
but see... you're too rich and sophisticated for me to call them feeble... weak willed perhaps... I don't know... unrealistic?... We don't know what to make of it really... from our perspective it's all rather confusing...
2biT
Dec 15, 2005, @ 11:51 AM
europe is pussies except the uk, which is not part of europe, and will never be. We fought not to be a part of europe 60 years ago and nothing has changed since then.
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Apocalypse
Dec 15, 2005, @ 01:14 PM
What do you call someone that has all the ability to do something and yet never does?
A politician
2biT
Dec 15, 2005, @ 02:01 PM
but see... you're too rich and sophisticated for me to call them feeble... weak willed perhaps... I don't know... unrealistic?... We don't know what to make of it really... from our perspective it's all rather confusing...
Its ok karma you are still a young country with a lot to learn, we europians have been fighting with and against each other for a long long time. Nothing is going to change that. You only have to look at the EU rebate for an example. (unreasonable french again /le sigh)
Karmashock
Dec 15, 2005, @ 02:40 PM
Its ok karma you are still a young country with a lot to learn
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I love that line...
Actually, the US is older then several european countries as you've gone through revolutions and such.
And as to learning... we're all the same age. Humans get old and die. New humans are born and born knowing just about nothing.
The only difference between us is that your whole civilization tried to commite suicide TWICE with WW1 and WW2. Today your cultures are still realing from the blade... you're paralized by fear and doubt. You think that if you're just passive enough you might avoid the slaughter of the past and you're kidding yourself.
Passiveness only gives your enemies time.
we europians have been fighting with and against each other for a long long time. Nothing is going to change that. You only have to look at the EU rebate for an example. (unreasonable french again /le sigh)
A house divided against itself cannot stand. - AL, 1858.
2biT
Dec 15, 2005, @ 03:03 PM
Im not german.
And thats why the UK is not part of europe, because it sucks (EU that is). Hell ill take you dam overpaid, oversexed yanks, as allies over the french any day of the week.
Europe is the UK and scandinvia, the rest are just nOObs.
Karmashock
Dec 15, 2005, @ 03:19 PM
Im not german.
Passiveness is not a trait shared only by the germans...
And thats why the UK is not part of europe, because it sucks (EU that is). Hell ill take you dam overpaid, oversexed yanks, as allies over the french any day of the week.
Over paid?... mah' brother, we get paid fair market value for our asses...
and over sexed?... all of europe is more sexed then we are... the US is perhaps more desenitized to violence, but not sex. We don't have have porn over the air tv or unions for prostitutes.
Europe is the UK and scandinvia, the rest are just nOObs.
That's where most of my blood comes from... 25 percent from england.... 25 percent from denmark... another 25 percent from ireland... and the remaining 25 percent some variant of american mutt. :)
Morpheus
Dec 16, 2005, @ 03:19 AM
What do you call someone that has all the ability to do something and yet never does?
A politician
Agreed.
Tank0
Dec 16, 2005, @ 05:27 AM
2bit wrote "europe is pussies except the uk, which is not part of europe, and will never be. We fought not to be a part of europe 60 years ago and nothing has changed since then"
WRONG!!
it was always part of europe , you think because there is 15 km water between us you are someway different . your smoke pollutes our air , the fog on your coast is the same fog on ours , if it rains in london it rains in Oostende .
the americans tried to be an "island" untill the worldproblems came to them in a symbol of two crashing towers .
IMHO your grandparents sacrificed a world empire to keep europe free , they knew if they let the germans take poland they would be next .
look at the influence of europe before yall begin spamming BS . many europeans got drawn to the US to develope weapons, tech and science .
europe is more then germany and the bloody french , we have a shitload of countries who think different but are to small to influence policy .
right now GB wants to cut back on finances because the french refuse to give up farmersubsidies . how can we ever stand for something if one is a stubborn jackass and the other a saboteur . if you don t like it quit the EU and let the rest of us continue with the plan . quit wining about the rest are pussies we arent part of it , GB is the fucking leader at the moment , step up and do your job or quit and become the 51 state .
i am sick and tired of the brits enjoying all the economic advantages of the EU but avoid any responsibility about the rest .
1 will give one example my country :
we flooded our own country to stop the germans in WWI
thousands of volunteers smuggled themselve to GB to join the allies in WWII
belgians where in korea ,
we where on the front line during the cold war ,
we accepted nukes on our territory ( atm they are still here pointed at russia )
we joined in the first iraq war
we are in afghanistan
our special forces are 100% commited to the US war effort
and i know i can make a list for the netherlands and many other small countries overhere , so before you ll call us pussies THINK
the powers that be should make up their mind , do they really want a strong europe as allies , if so stop the divide and conquer techniques , either smack the french or wake up the english .
plz stop the neaderthal thinking , sure we do have a small country , we have a small club to smack people with but we stand next to you when we go to battle , imho it takes more guts to come and fight with a small army then taking a stand as the only superpower
/:tantrum:
Karmashock
Dec 16, 2005, @ 07:16 AM
the americans tried to be an "island" untill the worldproblems came to them in a symbol of two crashing towers .
False... we treid to be an island until world problems came to us in the symbol of two world wars.
We tried to avoid both of them but we couldn't... which is why we are the way we are today.
We can't count on people to keep things under control in their own parts of the world so we have to do it for them.
IMHO your grandparents sacrificed a world empire to keep europe free , they knew if they let the germans take poland they would be next .
You've just argued against yourself. If england was just defending itself by stopping the nazis then it wasn't for europe. The english have a history of just opposing which ever side is stronger because that keeps them safe
europe is more then germany and the bloody french , we have a shitload of countries who think different but are to small to influence policy .
That doesn't explain why you let france and germany speak for you... and you do.
right now GB wants to cut back on finances because the french refuse to give up farmersubsidies . how can we ever stand for something if one is a stubborn jackass and the other a saboteur . if you don t like it quit the EU and let the rest of us continue with the plan . quit wining about the rest are pussies we arent part of it , GB is the fucking leader at the moment , step up and do your job or quit and become the 51 state .
help them or become part of the problem.
i am sick and tired of the brits enjoying all the economic advantages of the EU but avoid any responsibility about the rest .
What economic advantages? Britian has earned everything it has... and not buying into the euro is not shurking a responsibility but declining what is supposed to be an advantage.
the powers that be should make up their mind , do they really want a strong europe as allies , if so stop the divide and conquer techniques , either smack the french or wake up the english .
Dividing europe is the only thing that has kept britian from being conquered over the centuries... the british are masters at it.
They want the EU to be one thing, france wants it to be another. Take a side and fight for it.
imho it takes more guts to come and fight with a small army then taking a stand as the only superpower
Guts?... I don't think you realize how hard this is on our people... most of our enemies are only enemies because we protected someone else.
how many enemies would you be comfortable getting just to help someone?
Tank0
Dec 16, 2005, @ 10:36 AM
like i said before GB without europe doesn't work and visa versa .
alaska and hawai are farther away from the other states then GB from europe yet they dont wine about not being US .
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if england started WWII just for its own interests , they would have kept the liberated countries just like the russians did . they brought freedom to europe just like you are trying to do in iraq . you are always arguing that you arent doing that for the US but for world peace and the iraqees why would england have had lesser motives then
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we don t let germany and france speak for us , nobody bothers to listen to our stance untill we threathen to veto . right now england is doing something wrong just to counter the french, so we veto it . french are to blame but they arent taken the next step
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google the export en import from mainland europe to england and then try to say england has done it all by itself , utter BS . GB wanted to join the EU .
its a perfect symbioses
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my ideas exactly kick the french out or the english and continue .GB must realise it alone is nothing compared to the new economic superstates that are forming , indian and china are comming
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belgium is younger then the USA we ve been with yall in almost every international war , we tried to help whatever the costs , with an active army of 60.000 you can do only so much . We dont join in one single war ,what your own president just called a mistake , and suddenly we are pussies.
to me a real friend is a friend who tells you , you are wrong when you are .
if you follow your friends without any own ideas you are just a hangaround
Karmashock
Dec 16, 2005, @ 12:43 PM
like i said before GB without europe doesn't work and visa versa .
alaska and hawai are farther away from the other states then GB from europe yet they dont wine about not being US .
Those are states, britian is not anyone's state and retains the power to exit any agreement with the EU.
Neither Hawaii nor Alaska could leave the union if they wanted to.
There is a totally different relationship between states in the united states and various parts of europe to one an another.
Now, one day you might enter into a relationship like the US... but you're not there yet.
Nothing is more likely to make the british show you how far they can seperate themselves from europe then if you tell them they can't do it.
The US is similar in this regard... any relationship where the other side takes our involvement as granted or something they can lean upon... is likely to cause us to pull back.
if england started WWII just for its own interests , they would have kept the liberated countries just like the russians did .
They didn't start WW2, the germans did. Further, the US entered for roughtly the same reasons as England did... and we're not a part of europe.
they brought freedom to europe just like you are trying to do in iraq . you are always arguing that you arent doing that for the US but for world peace and the iraqees why would england have had lesser motives then
England had direct threats from german power. The US is not nearly as threatened by anything in the world.
our actions are preventing WW3, where as england was fighting ww2.
The US has a choice as to whether it fights against tyrany... Britian did not.
we don t let germany and france speak for us , nobody bothers to listen to our stance untill we threathen to veto . right now england is doing something wrong just to counter the french, so we veto it . french are to blame but they arent taken the next step
It isn't our responsibility to make sure they don't speak for you. That is YOUR responsibility.
We tried to shut germany and france up with that "old europe" crack, but that just pissed them off and you didn't in anyway make yourself heard.
True, you were likely in cluded in the old europe crack. But France and germany were trying to speak for eastern europe... which is just as bad.
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google the export en import from mainland europe to england and then try to say england has done it all by itself , utter BS . GB wanted to join the EU .
its a perfect symbioses
That would have existed regardless. Google the inport export of the US, canada, and Mexico.
Countries that are close together have higher trade with each other.... pretty basic.
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my ideas exactly kick the french out or the english and continue .GB must realise it alone is nothing compared to the new economic superstates that are forming , indian and china are comming
Coming to do what?... to make money?... China is boxed. They have an economic future but not a military one as they're sourounded by powerful states that will not tolerate further expansion.
As to economics... your only problem is your tarrifs... which you could lower without the EU. The US has free trade pacts with canada and mexico without forming some super state. We're also working on expanding the free trade to all of south america.
belgium is younger then the USA we ve been with yall in almost every international war , we tried to help whatever the costs , with an active army of 60.000 you can do only so much . We dont join in one single war ,what your own president just called a mistake , and suddenly we are pussies.
No where has it ever been any of our intentions to make light of your past deeds.
Consider for a moment how the US is being treated right now? How much have we fought and sacrificed only to be treated as outcasts over a single issue?
We might be being unfair with you, but we are being treated far more unfairly by many states in the european alliance.
We feel betrayed, insulted, and disapointed.
Even if europe did nothing at all, that would be better then actively working against us.
to me a real friend is a friend who tells you , you are wrong when you are .
if you follow your friends without any own ideas you are just a hangaround
and what do you call someone that only calls you friend when they need something?
Karmashock
Dec 16, 2005, @ 02:55 PM
Now he says he was misunderstood...
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/16/D8EHBEG80.html
riiiiiiight... :lol:
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