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Dibujante
Nov 23, 2005, @ 12:31 AM
http://www.cidcm.umd.edu/inscr/mar/chronology.asp?groupId=36003

This details the chronology of anti-Gypsy persecution in Romania (of note are the firebombings, the lynchings, the beatings and the formation of a group called "gypsy skinners", a neo-nazi anti-gypsy violence group). But an interesting clause was found here:

Sep 1992 Germany plans to deport the large number of Romanians, about 60% of whom are Gypsies (reports of the actual number of Romanians in Germany range from 43,000 to 135,000). It later signs an accord with Romania to facilitate this deportation and actually begins deporting Romanians in November.
Seriously, Germany? You'd think that after their little episode with the genocide of gypsies (under 1 million gypsies were killed in the Holocaust) they would try to prevent anti-Gypsy violence. It's a pity that even the nation that has supposedly come down the hardest against genocide and racial hatred is participating in the same mass murder they engaged in a half-century ago.

Bentusi
Nov 23, 2005, @ 03:27 AM
It's a pity that even the nation that has supposedly come down the hardest against genocide and racial hatred is participating in the same mass murder they engaged in a half-century ago.


when did deportation suddenly mean murder?

Dibujante
Nov 23, 2005, @ 03:31 AM
when did deportation suddenly mean murder?
When it sent these people to a country that was in no way protecting these people, a country full of thugs who call themselves delightful things like "gypsy skinners", thugs who have beaten gypsies, robbed gypsies, raped gypsies and murdered gypsies. Thugs who have burnt down gypsy homes and even engaged in public multiple homicides of gypsies. Thugs, in fact, that Romanian gypsies have been desperately fleeing into Germany to escape. Hundreds of thousands of Romanian gypsies have fled this new culture of hate. Sending them back is just being an accessory. They're refugees if ever I saw one.

Bentusi
Nov 23, 2005, @ 03:35 AM
so you advocate a no-borders policy? People can just walk from nation to nation when they're repressed?

Keep in mind I sympathize with them, but a policy like that only allows evil to breed because people would rather run than do things about it.

Dibujante
Nov 23, 2005, @ 03:39 AM
so you advocate a no-borders policy? People can just walk from nation to nation when they're repressed?

Keep in mind I sympathize with them, but a policy like that only allows evil to breed because people would rather run than do things about it.
I advocate a policy of not deporting refugees of ethnic cleansing back to their country of being ethnically cleansed in.
Edit: If Germany were willing to put its foot down and demand that Romania fixed these problems in exchange for sending these gypsies back, I'd be much more fine with it.

tom
Nov 23, 2005, @ 03:57 AM
Good school, that UMD.

Shame on me for going off-topic. :(