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Quietus
Aug 14, 2005, @ 11:47 PM
I can't find my DoW Disc 1 anywhere. I haven't been able to play in weeks.

:_(

Blacksand
Aug 15, 2005, @ 01:57 AM
No wonder I haven't seen you around.

Miss ya Quiet.

Weavern
Aug 15, 2005, @ 04:38 AM
If you need some help i could provide some *nudge* Or rather check the correct thread in priv forum and connect the dots. The EULA provides for certain backup procedures ahem ^_^

Quietus
Aug 15, 2005, @ 09:36 AM
lol

I would have just downloaded a crack for it, and played without the cd. But I had some huge problems, and ended up having to revert to an older image (without DoW installed). So I'm a little boned until I find it, or give in and buy a new copy for WA. :)

Shackled Phoenix
Aug 20, 2005, @ 03:12 AM
Download an Image file of it. You have proof you legally owned a copy, so therefore the download is legal.

Eadig
Aug 20, 2005, @ 10:31 AM
Shack's Right...

you paid for it... you can download it... and you have a legal reason to right there... "I lost my Disk" will fly in a court of law :P

The Fell Hand
Aug 20, 2005, @ 08:06 PM
Yeah just ask someone for a disc image and use Gamejack (just google it)

Aagil
Aug 20, 2005, @ 08:50 PM
Actually... There is a problem with this, you'll need a cracked exe to play as well since the game only accepts the original disk. I know, I tried :)

The Fell Hand
Aug 20, 2005, @ 09:01 PM
GAME JACK. I don't try, I do. Oh, and yes, you'll have to install from that disc image, if that's what aagil means.

Aagil
Aug 20, 2005, @ 09:49 PM
No, I mean the game has a built in checker to see if it's the real cd. You will need a No-Cd cracked .exe for the game to play it. That's what I mean.

Shackled Phoenix
Aug 20, 2005, @ 11:40 PM
check around the internet, there's most likely a way to make the game believe it's the original CD. www.gamecopy.com should be able to explain how.

or you could always just run it from a clone drive.

Weavern
Aug 20, 2005, @ 11:45 PM
GAMEJACK. All problems solved. Now for the legality, you own the CD and we are just providing help to get you playing again.

Aagil
Aug 21, 2005, @ 01:28 AM
Well there is another problem. The latest cracks are only for 1.2. He will not be allowed to play online with us unless we uninstall back to 1.2

Weavern
Aug 21, 2005, @ 02:14 AM
GAMEJACK

Aagil
Aug 21, 2005, @ 02:19 AM
Dude, you're not getting it. If gamejack solved all that, people would steal the program gamejack and never ever use cracks for their games. Gamejack is cd-emulation meaning the game knows it's fake. Only the original cd has something that lets you play and you cannot copy it ever. Even with burners like Alcohol Soft with built in protection get around for burning, or all the other ways of burning a cd, I have yet to see a game that did not know the fake from the original. If that check is put into a game then there is nothing you can do with a cracked .exe... and as I said Warhammer only goes to 1.2 in the no-cd crack department. Freelancer even has to have the original or a crack. Dawn of War has to. Vampires The Masquerade Bloodlines has to and it doesn't even have a multiplayer.

So unless you're telling me this gamejack bullshit can get around the need to cracking your exe to allow for a burned cd or cd-emulation you need to just stop spamming that. It's annoying, and you're wrong.

IT SAYS
"NEW: New is the integrated game starter. This functions allows it, to play copy protected games without using a CD/DVD in your drive - without "No CD Crack" or something like this. Please try the GameStarter to use the full functionality of GameJack 5!"

But somehow I very much doubt it will be able to handle this. The pirating community uses many different programs and usually is ahead of the curve, so if they seem to think they've got the pirates beat, then maybe they do. But I don't believe it.

So just to prove you wrong, I will download it right now and test it with my fake cd of Warhammer and we'll see.

Weavern
Aug 21, 2005, @ 02:32 AM
Aagil we have already tested it and it worked for dibs so it will work for quietus. And aagil thats percisely what people do, it eliminated the need for a nocd 1.3. Aagil if you want to have a vendetta against me then feel free, but dont be expecting to escape unscathed.

Aagil
Aug 21, 2005, @ 02:42 AM
Well. I will assume you are right and I am wrong for now. I'm sorry for calling you anything other than that which you are and you are probably right. Forgive me for my ignorance, arrogance, and slow wit. I humbly apologize and beseech your kindness in this matter that I was so arrogantly and blatantly wrong.

(note: no sarcasm)

Aagil
Aug 21, 2005, @ 03:34 AM
I tried it and it still said the same thing "Insert original disk". I will now try game jack's work around which is in essence a crack.

Edit: It appears to work when started through Gamejack and through gamejack only through some kind gamestarter crack that is built into Gamejack.

So if you're willing to shell out the same amount of money as a new game costs (I got Dawn of War for $19.99 USD from Best Buy, and GameJack costs 29.99) then go for it.

However I thought the idea was he lost the program and not that he'd have to go out and buy something more than the program just to use it.

You could, of course, crack the demo version and use it if you want... but one way or another you'll need some kind of crack.

The Fell Hand
Aug 21, 2005, @ 06:06 AM
Crack for Gamejack is a simple serial, obtainable in abo0t 5 seconds.

Aagil wasn't totally faulted, but frankly most of us are geeks here, so it's assumeable we would have tried daemon/alcohol/w/eshit. Hence, gamejack is the program needed now to run DoW sans physical disc. /thread?

Shackled Phoenix
Aug 21, 2005, @ 07:02 AM
Hmm, sorry to say that my link doesn't work.... which sucks because that means I don't remember the website.

Seriously, this whole copy protection from DoW is old. I remember it trying to copy Diablo II. It's not hard to break.

http://www.gameburnworld.com/cdridentifyingtools.htm

Whoever makes the Iso file for quietwould have to use this, and the matching utility.
quietus, IM me if you want me to make and send you a copy of the disc.

The Fell Hand
Aug 21, 2005, @ 07:25 AM
It's not that old...the 1.3 patch is what rendered standard cracking obsolete...and that was only a couple months ago.

Aagil
Aug 21, 2005, @ 07:45 AM
Actually, the latest version of GameJack doesn't allow for a serial that works, that I could tell. I tried a few. The only real option that I saw was the cracked exes for GameJack.

And the real point about my crack comment was the fact there is really no "legal" way to play the game without a cd. Something must be stolen or illegally tampered. To play 1.3 you steal GameJack. For the others you use an illegal copy of their .exe to play. If you buy GameJack it might be worth it for more than one game, but just for Dawn of War it's not, since you can buy the game for $19.99 now.

Anyways, the ISO isn't the hard part to create. It's bypassing the cd check. I have a copy of the CD, but it needs either a No-Cd crack or the No-Cd playback of GameJack. Either way, the burning isn't the issue.

Shackled Phoenix
Aug 21, 2005, @ 06:47 PM
It's not that old...the 1.3 patch is what rendered standard cracking obsolete...and that was only a couple months ago.

no, the protection against no CD crack is new. The protection keeping you from using a copy of the CD is old.

And Aagil, creating a personal use copy of a CD, even if you have to bypass protections to do it, is NOT illegal. Actually read an entire EULA and it says so right in it.

Aagil
Aug 21, 2005, @ 06:50 PM
The Eula also states you're not allowed to modify their product. Bypassing protection using GameJack is legal because all "modification" is done software wise through gamejack when it runs the program. Bypassing it through editing of their software to remove that part of it completely is still very much illegal.

Shackled Phoenix
Aug 22, 2005, @ 08:04 AM
eh WRONG. 1. they give you the tools themselves to edit and modify the software. 2. You're not editing the original disk in the slightest. Infact, you're copying it exactly.