POLL: What do you think of the current TLSC

[Spulm]

Was talking about this for some time now, But I actually Want to know what everybody thinks of the current state of TLSC.

Give me your opinion about your choice and give reasons why you think about it the way you do.

NO SPAMMING IN HERE!!!

M.

[Cleary]

its good atm, altho i want Karmashock back.

[Juggalo]

Right now, it's ok. I've only been here about a year, so I don't know much of the past TLSC years. :P I feel I'd have a better time if my computer wasen't so shitty and that my 56k would just combust and then burn. :-\

[Spulm]

Well, the way I see it: I see TLSC as small separate groups without much leadership. Some commanders try to do everything to keep it a nice place to be, but it just doesn't is because of lack of interest. Plans are never completed and that's why this community is dying I think. If officers come with a possible solution, they never work it out, result is that TLSC is becoming just a random place where people are spamming all the time and really act like a random horde of unguided sheep. I think this can be solved if divcoms become more active and interested in TLSC and organize things to make TLSC an interesting place to be. The plan of the TLSC store was a great idea, unfortunate it was never completed, why? I think the commanders gave up to soon, as I see an active store on the Chiken site. I don't think expanding to new games would solve the problem; numbers is not the problem here. It's the lack of leadership. I lost my interest for TLSC because we have no backbone to rely on.

I can't read the officer forums, don't know if u got brilliant ideas over there to make TLSC an active community again. But all I know is that we need to get our heads together and make TLSC a group.

Amen

M.

[Cleary]

Well, the way I see it: I see TLSC as small separate groups without much leadership. Some commanders try to do everything to keep it a nice place to be, but it just doesn't is because of lack of interest. Plans are never completed and that's why this community is dying I think. If officers come with a possible solution, they never work it out, result is that TLSC is becoming just a random place where people are spamming all the time and really act like a random horde of unguided sheep. I think this can be solved if divcoms become more active and interested in TLSC and organize things to make TLSC an interesting place to be. The plan of the TLSC store was a great idea, unfortunate it was never completed, why? I think the commanders gave up to soon, as I see an active store on the Chiken site. I don't think expanding to new games would solve the problem; numbers is not the problem here. It's the lack of leadership. I lost my interest for TLSC because we have no backbone to rely on.

I can't read the officer forums, don't know if u got brilliant ideas over there to make TLSC an active community again. But all I know is that we need to get our heads together and make TLSC a group.

Amen

M.

Just today i was telling Apoc that where he's leader theres a sertain back bone with hes leadership.

He's TLSCs best DivCom Imo and no offence to others.

I agree with you on the leaders, they need to be more active.
They should be trying to improve TLSC by the day, not have the attitude of *If its not broken dont fix it*
But TLSC needs active leaders.

[Juggalo]

He's TLSCs best DivCom Imo and no offence to others.
*If its not broken dont fix it*


Apoc's the one who's been saying that. :P

[tom]

I agree activity is a problem. I am not as involved as I should be, nor is MVB (outside of WoW). Most of the games we are involved in aren't tremendously active, or are having command problems (Fell is inactive in DOW I've heard, and UT keeps rotating divcoms).

Retention is another problem, since there isn't a real reason to stay. Back in "the day", we had a membership which included the best gamers of the gaming community, like in Cata, HW2, and GC2, and we also hosted tournies every so often. Even as recently as a few months ago, we had intelligent discussion on the forums and a large group of people visiting regularly posting. Today, however, that no longer exists (outside of HW2, which seems to conduct events regularly; the only problem is HW2 community isn't very large). So, besides spamming a forum, why should people stay here? I don't see any reason.

We can propose as many solutions as we want, but unless we get some long-term and devoted divcoms, or more active people up top (myself included), nothing will get solved.

I've just become tired of things. Seems like every time a solution is proposed that will solve all our problems, nothing changes. Thinking up change isn't worth it anymore.

[Captain Salazar Snowberry]

Okay, I think TLSC needs some improvements, but then again if it was up to me it would be run like a dictatorship.

Here's my rant at the movie "Stealth".

That film, I can only assume, was made by retards, financed by retards, and targeted at the Down Syndrome audience - which must be one huge target group because the film had a budget of 100+ million. Anyway, this flick is about three air force pilots who get a new companion, a computer controlled plane with artificial intelligence. Of course it gets struck by lightning and becomes even more intelligent and kinda evil. It also downloads every single song from the internet (not making this up) and proceeds to blast some cringe-inducing nu-metal while blowing up some terrorists in Kasachstan. Even though it downloaded billions of songs it always plays the same crappy one, though. Funny. What also cracked me up to an almost terminal degree was how they make the military personell clue in the retard audience by having them say things like: "Your next target is a terrorist splinter cell in Kasachstan, that's this little country that was once part of the Soviet Union." Because obviously three elite pilots don't know shit about geography. I also loved how one pilot crashes over North Korea and one guy says to the general: "Should we deploy a rescue team?" to which the general or admiral respons: "Sadly, this isn't possible. We do not have diplomatic relations with North Korea. They are communists." Oh and at the end the A.I. robo-plane learns an important life lesson and sacrifices itself for the other human pilots.

And here's a quote from The Boston Globe, Ty Burr"I can therefore recommend it to any and all audiences lacking higher brain functions. Sea cucumbers, perhaps. Ones waving American flags."

[Delta]

and jesus wat does the movie stealth have to do with this at all.... well i am happy with tlsc right atm the moment... problem is i dont see many on at hw2 cause i have wierd times so i can only talk with people on the forums

[Lt_Omega]

Isn't the whole point of Search and Recue to go into countries; where ya Don't have diplomatic ties?

[ilia]

1st of all, welcome back spulm0rn00b. :P

2nd of all: TLSC needs improvements, overall, but I'm still proud to be a member of this community. :)

The primary problem here, in my opinion, is lack of games in divisions (lets ignore these "clubs" for a second, shall we).

Both HW2, UT2004, and AA/CS are old games. Thus it is no surprise that we dont see too much activity in these divisions (from my point of view as someone who isnt a member on these divs). This is completely understandable, as with all due respect to gaming fun and all, there is so much time you can spend playing a single MP FPS (HW2 excluded - it may be an RTS, but it doesnt have too much veriety gameplay wise).
DoW: The lack of activity is almost 100% due to the 1.3 disaster. GC2 followed the same death trap. However, unlike GC2, DoW has fair chances of coming out of this death trap, in the form of WA.

WoW: The primary reason why I believe that TLSC inactivity comes from lack of good games: This division - as far as I can see - is at a very sucessful shape. Its not only due to MVB (cause most of the div members didnt even know him before they joined TLSC), but because the fact that this game is fresh and relatively new. New content is added, and I bet not everything is yet explored gameplay wise. This was the state of the DoW division during beta, 1.0, 1.1 and early-mid 1.2.

So to cut a long story short: yes, if all the Divcoms suddenly gather up and say 'Okay fellas, were resurrecting all the divs, were gonna do events, tournies, daily meetings, msn convos etc etc', the result wil be indeed a better TLSC. The question is can we really expect them to do it when they themselves no longer enjoy playing the game? No. We need new games. Or new MP mods for existing games. Until then, however, there isnt much anyone can do about it. We'll just have to be patient as new RTS and FPS games are developed and spread to the market.

[Larsson7]

Basically - if i wasnt here TLSC would not be as good.

I add at least 50% awesomeness to this group and that is the truth.

Care to disagree???

As for Karmashock - he has been unbanned for quite some time and if he never comes back I would never give a shit.

Oh - we need more EvE players.

[Lord_Ulrik]

1st: Im just an applicant
2nd: I wont brag

but 7 really good german clans asked me in the past to join them, but i allways said sorry, i need no clan. But tlsc is sth other for me. Ok, it´s no clan it´s a sect, a religion ;) but watever. I wanna be part of this. It was the first "clan" i met in DoW and the best there is (for me). That and not at least abby are the reasons why i wanna be a tlsc disciple ;) :D. I also know there is a great liability when ya part of the sect, coz nearly everyone in DoW knows tlsc and so ya have to be a fair "sportsmen" tto everyone who´s fair to you or a fair player. That´s a point i really respect in tlsc, there are so much clans who´re bashin random teams to feel good or beein satisfied or watever. Ok, i play much games with mates i know, but i guess there´s a difference between playin with ppl ya know out of the lobby and ppl who are in one clan and have really training. Furthermore we´re playin no newbies and allways try to get a good challenge, but thats not easy to find these days. So we had choosen to train some of the newcomer. Two of us with one beginner. That´s mosty a challenge and i hope we could give them some skill. Im sickof playin allways the same ppl. Ok, since some days there are some more of tlsc online again and i played some really fuckin hard 2v2v2v2 games, which were more than a challeneg hehe. MORE OF THEM PLZ. Ok, enuff now b2t: I think the state of tlsc (im only able to talk of the dow part) is good, but could need more activity. I havent give a vote, coz im no member, but i think im allowed to write down my opinion here. Thx for paying some attention to my opinion and continue with this great *canoo* community and gameplayin. And yes i would be lil proud (maybe not the right term) of beein a part of this religion. ;)
End of my message.

[Tank0]

i tried to group people again with games to play on the site , plans r still strong to pay for the mod for online arcade on the forums so our coders could make some simple yet addictive games for the spam rabbits .

i tried to group peope on a meet

still supportinng DJ for the sponsoring idea

still curious about the store - juicy you r teh man for that job imho

spammers should get tapped on the fingers , seriously guys enough is enough the funny joke is over now its just annoying like a swarm of flies


focus on max 3 new clubs every three months , keep the old divs as long as possible , the lenght a game is played is very diverse.

if a club like guildwars fails move on grow in the succesfull one ( i switched to freelancer )

we have enough active members to run 3 divs perfectly not 26 .

when tlsc moved to wow from hw2 i stayed in hw2 because i didnt like it , if i really wanted to join in tlsc fun i would have bought the game .


tlsc 's worst days (slow rise) are over but losing drunk , mvb and tom to real life is now really hurting us

[Justice]

spammers should get tapped on the fingers

Not me, I stopped!!! :)

Anyway, I do think that TLSC is running smoothly in the absence of MVB and the slightly lessened activity of Tom. From what I know of Apoc and I, the divisions are growing nicely, and each division commander is doing a fairly good job at what they do. Some command changes and such have been implemented, but other than that the divisions are practically running themselves.

Apoc has expanded into a HIGHLY (let me repeat: HIGHLY) successful Freelancer division, and the rest of the divisions seem to be going strong. Not to say there could be improvements, but I think the current status of TLSC from where I stand at the division administrative level is fine.

On the other hand, if y'all are complaining about being bored, spam Neb. She's the activities director; tell her to do something about it :P

cheers, and
-=</|Awesome Party!|\>=-

[MVB]

Meh; activity for me is hardly gone; managing 250 players in a WoW guild is time-consuming, esp. when a lot of them are TLSC and you're working on making more of them into TLSC.

That being said, tom and I have been getting ready to meet b/c some of the directors we promoted just aren't doing their jobs and need to be replaced/switched out. All of the things mentioned so far are great, so keep them coming.

[eXoRciSt]

Tom, this is why you need to approve Marbzz expansion division [my idea, everything], Graphics Battles, it will bring alot of attention, and alot of skilled people to tlsc. I'ts a great idea.

[Foree]

Why not bringing back the old look of the command... I mean, the one out of Cata days or the one from times when hw2 was still filled with skilled oldskool players...

That's something I recall with nostalgie. The present state is far worse than the past.

[Cleary]

Tom, this is why you need to approve Marbzz expansion division [my idea, everything], Graphics Battles, it will bring alot of attention, and alot of skilled people to tlsc. I'ts a great idea.
I have been nagging tom for ages for a graphics competitions and stuff like that, but hes not intrested.
he says...

Ask MVB

or

No, why dont you do it. (im a basic member with no power to hold a competiton.)

I voted TLSC needs alittle improvments, its fine now, but leaders should be trying to make it better every day.

[Juggalo]

(im a basic member with no power to hold a competiton.)

I'm just a basic member, and I got the N. American UT side started just fine(with some help from others. :)). Just ask around and see who's interested and start planning stuff. You don't need a senior member to do shit for you. I'm sure if you get enough people interested, you could get a subforum. :up:

[tom]

No, why dont you do it. (im a basic member with no power to hold a competiton.)

You don't need power for an art competition. Just do it, or read my avatar.

[DJTheBaron]

god help u if i ever get responsibility and money for tlsc

u might have to actually do stuff and showup once in a while to leach free games

[The Fell Hand]

Thx ulrik, above all, even internal strife, i've always put our rep foremost so that we'll always have a great community's welcome to return to or fall back on shoudl things go wrong. I had been inactive, as ilia stated, when the patch rolled around...or rather, shortly thereafter. It's no secret that the changes hit many groups hard, and because of some imbalances and a big blow to the size of the community, much bickering ensued as the drug called happiness wore thin.

Being a new divcom, i hadn't been through this sort of situation, or cycle as it seems, but personally it's starting to feel just as good as the old days, and with the expansion around it can only get better.

TLSC was (not that we aren't now), in the top tier of the community playing in tourneys and such, and the rash of members leaving for other games due to frustration or w/e was draining, as was my job that had become "work" as opposed to fuel for fun, for the first time. Among all this was a change in direction in my approach at career, family, etc., and it really all added up to a giant learning experience.

Not to say that i feel more mvb/smuggish, but I think things have mellowed out, including myself to a noteable extent. I think things are improving rapidly, however you can just see for yourselves in the near future.

I've played just about every night for a good month and a bit, however observing the date of this thread, people probably said i was inactive because i made a trip up north this past week to visit a friend who normally lives halfway around the world. I'm back now, and moreover training for WCG. yall know i'm there.

anyways...yeah. :ponder:

[DrunkenUno]

Why not bringing back the old look of the command... I mean, the one out of Cata days or the one from times when hw2 was still filled with skilled oldskool players...

That's something I recall with nostalgie. The present state is far worse than the past.

Thats quite obviously not going to happen. TLSC was much more elitist back then, though it claimed not to be. You in general had to be decent to even get in, or have caught the eye of one of the other good players. But since then its just "omg come here and join" to every person regardless.

Oh well, was a good idea.

[tom]

It wasn't elitist; everyone who was anyone could join (I think I recruited about 25 members, most of whom I had never met). That policy is obviously not the way to go nowadays, but it got our name on the map. A few months later we got some excellent players, but that was probably mostly because of MVB.

[Rubba Duck]

plans r still strong to pay for the mod for online arcade on the forums so our coders could make some simple yet addictive games for the spam rabbits .
to all of you who are unaware:
i DO participate in my divs. Im probably the most active UT player.

I voted for TLSC is fine. I think altho there are cracks in the community as a whole, i think those problems are drawn all out of proportion and that we have a thriving comminity here.
OK so maybe i havent been here as long as most of you (i joined late jan, accepted early feb) and so dont know some of the bad days of TLSC's past, but i enjoy being part of the community even tho im not liked by some, i dont go on flamewars or rant, i let it pass by, i dont want to upset anyone :)

Nearly everyone in this community i like, even if im not liked back.
id be deeply upset if TLSC ceased to be.