PS3 ownz

[Fragman]

http://img.engadget.com/common/images/5608372271648138.JPG

Product name: PlayStation 3

Logo: PLAYSTATION(R)3

CPU

Cell Processor
PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS

GPU

RSX @550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines

Sound

Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell- base processing)

Memory

256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz

System Bandwidth

Main RAM 25.6GB/s
VRAM 22.4GB/s
RSX 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB< 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)

System Floating Point Performance

2 TFLOPS

Storage

Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1

I/O

USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1

Communication

Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)

Controller

Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB 2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)

AV Output

Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1

Disc Media

CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE

[Weavern]

WTF is with the grips on that controler. Well at least it looks better then the 360 which is some bastard love child of apple and an Xbox from the appearance.

[Shackled Phoenix]

Okay... if that remote vibrates i can think of some damnably fun things to do with it.

On a serious note, check the stats. PS3 does pwn the 360 in hardware, though not by much. hopefully sony will keep getting the better contracts too.

[Juggalo]

Damn those are some nice stats. but I'm still going with the Xbox360 just because M$ is, well, M$ and I would never abandon the Xbox franchise.

lol Shackled, I was just gonna post that my friend(female) had something like that controller. :P

[Shackled Phoenix]

Seriously....

I want that remote ^.^

[JADezimar]

Well hardware wise they beat eachother in different areas. The only thing I find in question is of which the floating point performance. How valuable is floating point performance or what exactly does it stand for? I mean if thats the major hardware rating of the system then the sony blows xbox out of water. If ram and memory cache for the processors are more important then the xbox blows sony out of water. #2 will sony try to make its system as accessory/program friendly as the xbox?


Here is the xbox

Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU:

3 symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
2 hardware threads per core; 6 hardware threads total
1 VMX-128 vector unit per core; 3 total
128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
3 symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
1 MB L2 cache

CPU Game Math Performance:

9 billion dot product operations per second

Custom ATI Graphics Processor:

500 MHz
10 MB embedded DRAM
48-way parallel floating-point dynamically-scheduled shader pipelines
Unified shader architecture

Polygon Performance:

500 million triangles per second

Pixel Fill Rate:

16 gigasamples per second fillrate using 4X MSAA

Shader Performance:

48 billion shader operations per second

Memory:

512 MB GDDR3 RAM
700 MHz DDR
Unified memory architecture

Memory Bandwidth:

22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
21.6 GB/s front-side bus


Overall System Floating-Point Performance:

1 TFLOP

Storage:

Detachable and upgradeable 20 GB hard drive
12X dual-layer DVD-ROM
Memory unit support starting at 64 MB

I/O:

Support for up to 4 wireless game controllers
3 USB 2.0 ports
2 memory unit slots

Optimized for Online:

Instant, out-of-the-box access to Xbox Live features, including Xbox Live Marketplace for downloadable content, Gamer Profile for digital identity and voice chat to talk to friends while playing games, watching movies or listening to music
Built in Ethernet Port
Wi-Fi Ready: 802.11 A, B and G
Video Camera Ready

Digital Media Support:

Support for DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 CD, JPEG Photo CD
Stream media from portable music devices, digital cameras, Windows XP PCs
Rip music to Xbox 360 hard drive
Custom playlists in every game
Windows Media Center Extender built in
Interactive, full screen 3D visualizers

HD Game Support:

All games supported at 16:9, 720p and 1080i, anti-aliasing
Standard definition and high definition video output supported

System Orientation:

Stands vertically or horizontally

Customizable Face Plates:

Interchangeable to personalize the console

[Fragman]

lmoa god get your mind out of the gutter its a damn controller get a real one of those things

[The Fell Hand]

YES YES YES YES fuck, own the stupid stupid xbox. Fine fine, xbox has some kewl games...but SONY PWSNSSSNSNDfgaf

[Lt_Omega]

I guess Sony wants more attention from the females this time round.



I like the way they Hid those Memory card slots ;)

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/video/Playstation3/E3PressConference/ps3-open.jpg

I sure hope we can view images stored on SD cards, from Digital cameras, onto a TV this way. Would be a great way to show photos to guests on a HDTV set.



Would be cool if a flash drive

http://www.lexar.com/image/banner_usbflashdrives.jpg

could transfer images from a SD card to a Flash Drive.

[Shackled Phoenix]

If ram and memory cache for the processors are more important then the xbox blows sony out of water.

Actually just the memory cache, reread the PS3's stats, it's actually got a total of 512 MB of RAM, 256 dedicated to the graphics processor.

The Xbox 360 has 522, 512 system, with 10 dedicated to graphics. and the PS3 uses faster RAM.

[JADezimar]

Sony
256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz

Main RAM 25.6GB/s
VRAM 22.4GB/s
RSX 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB< 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)


Xbox
512 MB GDDR3 RAM
700 MHz DDR

22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
21.6 GB/s front-side bus

[Lt_Omega]

RAM usually leads to larger levels more than anything else. The next gen of games wouldn't need more than 256 MB of main memory anyway.

The thing that Xbox has going for it on the RAM side is the embedded video RAM. That may not help much though since it still has to share 512 MB with the main processor.

My guess is the PS3 is gonna be the one with the nicer graphics, while the XBox would be the one with the larger in game levels.

[Ninja]

Watch these video and watch your jaw just drop. These are in game graphic from what the cell and GPU on the ps3 can produce in real time. Just simply amazing.

MotorStorm (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748475/vid_1121807.html?mu=http%3A%2F%2Fstreamingmovies.i gn.com%2Fps3%2Farticle%2F614%2F614854%2Fsonycon_ga mes_06_killzone_wmvlow.wmv)
Killzone (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748475/vids_1.html)
Vision Gt (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/713/713809/vids_1.html)

[The Fell Hand]

FUCK FUCK FUCK NINJA THANX

i guess it really is hot off the press, i didn't see any media like a couple hours ago.

[Ninja]

This is my homepage until E3 is over hehe.
Lots of PS3 Trailers (http://ps3.ign.com/e3/2005/videos/)

[The Fell Hand]

Ps3 OWNS Me I'm sold. Good bye ,i'm going to the future, suckers. *runs into wall*

[Lt_Omega]

Starts saving!

[The Fell Hand]

eyedentify seems wrong but being female spies' tech support would be ...kinda kewlaBRTArtbpwn in a geeky way.

Killzone is..... .. .. ..............................*scratches spine*...just watch it

[hero]

omg, well, the ps is probably gonna be a more powerfull console than the 360. NEVER THE LESS, the 360 WILL come out earlier AND looks better (cuz this thing looks like plain shite to me, really, just.... LOOK AT IT, the controller is the worst part), and since I'm a xbox fan now and ever, ill go for the MS monster any time!

I gotta give sony this, the game preview from ign, it's fucking beautifull, it's like a FUCKING MOVIE for christ sake! killzone!!!

havent viewed the others, still, xbox WILL be just as beautifull in this kind of games, if they will make one...

[stats]

i'd say it looks remarkably similar to the new xbox. i have a feeling some corporate spying went on in the designphase somewear...

[hero]

i dont think so, it's the exact opisite,

xbox 360:
)(

ps3:
()

[Lt_Omega]

Hero, it looked like you were implying X360 is for females with that hour glass shape ) ( heheh.

[Karmashock]

:lol:

So the computer market now owns the game consol hardware buisness. :D


The Xbox has an Intel core and the PS3 has a Power PC core which I think is made by IBM.


this is funny shit... I demand keyboards on all consols.

[hero]

there probably will be...

look at this: a spiderman font?

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/614/614619/e3-2005-ps3-official-20050516044919575.jpg

[Lt_Omega]

Well I'm not that please with the PS3 as a slot load device.

Although it does look cool, Slot loads are notorious as dust collectors, that may not be the case if the case (darn I used a pun :() was standing vertically.

[Outrageous Cheek]

http://gametrailers.com/

Gametrailers actually has better coverage. And their FF7 vid ACTUALLY WORKS...

Not to mention that SICK FFXII vid. And FFVII AC vid. WEW.

[DJTheBaron]

the new xbox, the new playstation, seriousily, its like buying another pc, and surley they'll cost a lot more than their predacessors?

[hero]

I believe xbox 360 wont cost more than the xbox when it first came out... and wasnt the ps2 like $1000 when it came out?

[Marb]

/Me hates the wingman controller.

[Fragman]

Memory

256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz

System Bandwidth

Main RAM 25.6GB/s
VRAM 22.4GB/s
RSX 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB< 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)

System Floating Point Performance

2 TFLOPS


JADezimar twist words it has 512. 256 main 256 vram which ownz the xb360s 10mb vram

[tom]

I believe xbox 360 wont cost more than the xbox when it first came out... and wasnt the ps2 like $1000 when it came out?

The PS2 came out a year before the Xbox and Gamecube, and was $399 US or something like that.

Maybe $499

[Fragman]

PS2 launch price was 299

[hero]

The PS2 came out a year before the Xbox and Gamecube, and was $399 US or something like that.

Maybe $499

hmm I thought it was like 1200, the first few that where plundered from stores, u know, by the peeps who had slept in front of the door. and verry soon after it became less, and less

[Karmashock]

who would be stupid enough to pay that much for a PS2?... honestly... the thing was NEVER worth that much... 400 is the most you could ever sell one for...

[JADezimar]

Fragman
JADezimar twist words it has 512. 256 main 256 vram which ownz the xb360s 10mb vram

The 512 megabytes in the xbox is tied into the processor and video ram. You really think the xbox only has 10 mb video ram get real. Alltthough it does appear the ram specifications for both machines are similar.

[Fragman]

Custom ATI Graphics Processor
- 500 MNz
- 10 MB embedded DRAM
- 48-way parallel floating-point shader pipelines
- unified shader architecture

Memory
-512 MB GDDR3 RAM
- 700 MNz DDR

hmmm now what is that yea now STFU ps3 has no sharing of ram

EDIT for the last time it was 299 at launch 299 look it up and see

[hero]

tried to look it up... O wait, we still paid with guilders.. so that was like 2 times 300 or 400 whatever, wich is abouy 700 guilders, that was the number i probably had in mind..

and pleez stop talking about ram, cuz, well just because!

[Scorpion]

I believe xbox 360 wont cost more than the xbox when it first came out... and wasnt the ps2 like $1000 when it came out?
the ps2 was 300 squid when it came out so that was about 600 dollars back then wasnt it? :angst:

[Outrageous Cheek]

Shack Sez:
Okay... if that remote vibrates i can think of some damnably fun things to do with it.


Now look here if you really want a Neckmassager, Get the REAL thing! It's only 200$ at Brookstone!
http://www.brookstone.com/bs_assets/images/shop/product/324640A_s.jpg

A steal, if you ask me.

It even comes with a pair of MALE hands! Bonus!

[Rubba Duck]

omg omg omg, did you just mention FF?? :drool:
there better be tonberrys in FFXII >:(

[hero]

It even comes with a pair of MALE hands! Bonus!

AND a piece of skinny lady back!

[Juggalo]

o.Odotdotdot

[Lt_Omega]

Darn I didn't noice this one before:
I can see her ribs from behind. Ewww.

[JADezimar]

FragMan
hmmm now what is that yea now STFU ps3 has no sharing of ram

Retard

That means the xbox ram is allocated where its needed.

[laserflip]

The PS2 came out a year before the Xbox and Gamecube, and was $399 US or something like that.

Maybe $499
yea, launch price for PS2 was $299

[Outrageous Cheek]

omg omg omg, did you just mention FF?? :drool:
there better be tonberrys in FFXII >:(

The game looks brilliant (and it's like 120 hours I hear) but the main character? What IS that!?

Cmon! He got like mini shorts.

But hey, I bet he's sensitive, that's why he's going to get that uber hottie.

[ilia]

lol I'll just stay with the good ol PC... The trailers (particulary the Formula1 and the killzone ones) look indeed amazing.. but who really cares about graphics.. Storyline and gameplay are 100000% more important. If I want something that looks shiney and has action in it, I can go to the cinema.

Besides, no wicked graphics processor will ever compete with my imgaination. :P

[Outrageous Cheek]

Suit yourself. :)

You know they have places for people who play Brain Master: Double Synapse 2: It's called a mental asylum.

They have a wheel chair, WITH YOUR NAME ON IT!

[JADezimar]

All I have to say is I will scream if the new systems ever lag.

[Fragman]

if you ask me looks like microsoft is tring to cover there asses http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/015/015335/vid_1131312.html?mu=http%3A%2F%2Fstreamingmovies.i gn.com%2Fxbox360%2Farticle%2F617%2F617029%2Fg4_e30 5live_day2_jallard_wmvlow.wmv

and this idea seems like total shit
http://media.xbox.ign.com/articles/617/617008/vid_1131184.html?mu=http%3A%2F%2Fstreamingmovies.i gn.com%2Fps3%2Farticle%2F616%2F616979%2Fg4_e305liv e_day2_pressrecap_wmvlow.wmv

and if it lagged that would just mean someone coded a shitty engine

[JADezimar]

So computers have shitty engines?

[Outrageous Cheek]

Omg I love adam sessler. He's hilarious on X-play.

[Juggalo]

Yes he is. You watching G4 I take it?

[Outrageous Cheek]

Yeah G4 is squeet.

Plus Morgan Webb. Oh heyoh yeeeeeaaaaah boiii.

[Fragman]

and yes lots of pc games have shitty engines but mostly its peoples shitty hardware

EDIT: i hate g4 they took Tech tv from me and Adam was originally on tech tvs extended play g4 bought tech tv like bitches btw do they still show eye drops that shit pwned

[Juggalo]

Frag, I 100% agree wit you. And no, they took Eye Drops off. The bastards... I only watch G4 for AOTS and Xplay... That's really it.

[Outrageous Cheek]

I watch it for X-Play.

What da funk is AOT?

[Juggalo]

Attack of the Show. It is alright, but nothing, and I mean nothing is anything close to as good as the old Screen Savers were. And Call for Help. Those shows were good, and are missed.

[JADezimar]

Well I wish I had this G4 channel >.<. Its better than nothing right? :_(

[Outrageous Cheek]

Call for help lol...That woman in the beginning, she alway like hid behind that desk so you know she was kinda....hefty....

[eXoRciSt]

aots and tss are the best

[Juggalo]

AOTS is ok. But nothing beats the original wit Leo and Pat.

[eXoRciSt]

the ps2 BY FAR has owned 360, but the PS3 has to coem out sooner.

oen thing i dont get, people complaining about a hig price,when, the graphics card cost that much alone?

[Juggalo]

Demon, Have you played the 360? Has anyone on the forums played 360(If Karma has, Imma kill him)? You have no idea if the PS2 has/will own the 360.

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/51/1402/1024/stfu-noob.jpg

[Karmashock]

I was playing the xbox 360 bitches... it rules.

But not as hard as the SLI rigs over at the nVida booth... :D

[Outrageous Cheek]

WHAT? How have you played it? Are you at E3!??!


WHO ARE YOU!???

[eXoRciSt]

the ps2 BY FAR has owned 360

have you seen the vids for killzone and fightnight, i mean real emotions on thier faces!

[Karmashock]

I played it dude... the P3 might have better games later... I wouldn't know... I played a few xbox 360 games and the thing kicks ass... Only the high end pcs at the convention looked better... you know, like the 4000 dollar nVidia and ATI rigs that those companies were showing people.

[hero]

the ps2 BY FAR has owned 360, but the PS3 has to coem out sooner.

oen thing i dont get, people complaining about a hig price,when, the graphics card cost that much alone?


you moron stop posting that the ps2 ownz the xbox 360... and the ps3 wont be out for a year or so, so its not owning anything!

[JADezimar]

Hehe with the ps3 coming out in spring that makes me that much more interested in xbox 360. I dont know if ps3 is worth the wait..... Although fight night looks kick ass. I would count on xbox 360 games being able to get near the same quality. So it basically comes down to the game makers. Even for the current generation consoles very few games have taken advantage of there true capabilities.

[Fragman]

all i have to say is sony has been on top of things x360 has no final hardware ready for show thats y stuff looks so god awful. at e3 there stuff is running on networked macs

[Outrageous Cheek]

I don't like J Allard.

So my respect for X360 went down. :D Besides I haven't seen any killer lookin games. 'Sepf for Dark Sector. That looks intresting.

[Juggalo]

have you seen the vids for killzone and fightnight, i mean real emotions on thier faces!

Fightnight is on Xbox. And Killzone just sucks.

You want emotions? *puts in Halo 2*

Oh, look at that, the marines showing emotions. HMMMM.

[JADezimar]

Fight night is xbox360? pwn That makes me want xbox 360 even more.

[eXoRciSt]

all i have to say is sony has been on top of things x360 has no final hardware ready for show thats y stuff looks so god awful. at e3 there stuff is running on networked macs


So why is PS3 coming out so much later?

[Fragman]

Because they want some good solid launch titles they just released dev kits 2 months ago what game do you think would be done in that time the games no one wants to play thats what

[Flower §~{@]

They keep looking closer and closer to spaceships than game-consols. Nice though!

[Outrageous Cheek]

What the funk is fight night?

Sounds like Fight Club, and just as fruitesque.

Yeah Killzone ONE sucked. But Killzone 2 looks lewt.

[hero]

go to the link u gave, the gametrailers one... fightnight is the fightgame that sony is releasing as a launchgame I believe.
it evolved from:
http://www.digitpress.com/dpsightz/atari7800/fightnight.gif

to: fight night round 3
http://www.ownage.nl/images/content/18450.jpg

And youre right, Killzone 2 looks awesome, It almost makes you want to get that ps3 instead of the xbox360, buuuuuutt, i aint fallin for that

[Outrageous Cheek]

Well I didn't purposely Put a link to Fight Night....whatever that poo is....


Eww that looks Fruitesque. But W/E. :)

[eXoRciSt]

im saving up all my money from now to next year 4 the Ps3, it will be so much better

[Juggalo]

im saving up all my money from now to next year 4 the Ps3, it will be so much better

I already have enough in the bank if they both sell for under $500. Which I hope they do.

[hero]

me too, got a special savings account with the soul purpose of having enough money for MS's new baby

[Outrageous Cheek]

I just walk into the store and cut down anyone who doesn't like me walking out with it.

[hero]

so ur gonna get it for free? :)

[Juggalo]

:lol:Nuggets will be scattered all across the floor.

[l_lruk-l-lai]

sony surprising again. PS 3 looks awsome.. cant believe the movies of killzone 2, and motorstorm. cant believe that is action of the games...

[Outrageous Cheek]

I know. I keep thinking how bad the old Killzone looked. And I almost am afraid they are gunna be like..LOL GOTCHA!!!! And the graphix will be like Super Metroid NES quality.

[Karmashock]

I thought xbox 360 looked better... but that's just me... they look just about the same...