View Full Version : new huge burger...
Karmashock
May 4, 2005, @ 01:02 AM
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050503/D89RMI981.html
as explanation, it's a burger that's big... and new...
Juggalo
May 4, 2005, @ 02:18 AM
Dubbed the Beer Barrel Belly Buster, the burger comes with 10.5 pounds of ground beef, 25 slices of cheese, a head of lettuce, three tomatoes, two onions, a cup-and-a-half each of mayonnaise, relish, ketchup, mustard and banana peppers - and a bun.
W.....T.....Fx2
Karmashock
May 4, 2005, @ 02:24 AM
they're just trying to keep their record of serving the "the world's largest burger"... it's 30 dollars...
which is actually a really good deal when you consider that you could split it with 30 people...
Polaris
May 4, 2005, @ 02:41 AM
good lord. and welcome to america
Juggalo
May 4, 2005, @ 02:57 AM
Home of the fatasses and hicks.
laserflip
May 4, 2005, @ 02:58 AM
hey karma...lets go see if we can take it :D. i bet me and you could eat that sukka. lets do it! whos with me?!?!
Juggalo
May 4, 2005, @ 02:59 AM
*is with you*
Karmashock
May 4, 2005, @ 03:08 AM
dude, we could feed all of TLSC with that thing...
http://www.snopes.com/photos/commercials/graphics/burger3_small.jpg
http://www.snopes.com/photos/commercials/graphics/burger1.jpg
http://www.snopes.com/photos/commercials/graphics/burger4_small.jpg
mOle
May 4, 2005, @ 02:11 PM
america in a nutshell
Papa Smurf
May 4, 2005, @ 02:23 PM
sad very sad, no wounder america is the fatest nation on the planet.
Rubba Duck
May 4, 2005, @ 03:30 PM
hey karma...lets go see if we can take it :D. i bet me and you could eat that sukka. lets do it! whos with me?!?!
i would, but america's too far away :(
hero
May 4, 2005, @ 05:25 PM
It costs $30.
"It can feed a family of 10,
pretty good deal I say, probably just not that healthy, not healthy at all...
ilia
May 4, 2005, @ 05:35 PM
Wealth minus values = America.
Values minus wealth = israel :D
Want my opinion? I prefer America.
laserflip
May 4, 2005, @ 09:21 PM
i knew you would, ilia...typical jew ;) j/p. but seriously, i bet me and another 2 of the biggest eaters here could tackle that sucker. i always wanted to try the big 72 ouncer or whatever it is in texas....the one you get for free if you eat it. i bet suas could eat the whole damn burger himself though.
Rubba Duck
May 4, 2005, @ 09:27 PM
try england, cheap electronics, costly food :_(
Juggalo
May 4, 2005, @ 09:32 PM
I could do it. I've eaten 3 t-bone steaks in one night. It was at my cousin's wedding.... god those were good..... :drool:
Rubba Duck
May 4, 2005, @ 09:51 PM
steaks overrated
laserflip
May 4, 2005, @ 10:14 PM
yea but cmon...an 80 ouncer? thats 5 pounds!
mOle
May 4, 2005, @ 10:45 PM
i seriously think i could eat that "thing"... not kidding...
Wealth minus values = America.
Values minus wealth = israel :D
Want my opinion? I prefer America.
values + wealth = norway...
Karmashock
May 5, 2005, @ 01:17 AM
america in a nutshell
It's only ONE burger place that is just doing it to get a world record... like the people that have a giant ball of twine just to say they have the WORLD"S biggest ball of twine.
http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/towns/Cawker/twine.html
http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/towns/Cawker/images/twine.jpg
Just how big is the ball of twine? Look at these figures:
* 17,554 pounds Almost 9 TON !!!
* 40 foot circumference
* Over 7,009,942 feet of sisal twine
* 1,325 Miles
* 2,137 KM
Look, that ball of twine defines the US too... and this rock... and that fish over there... and that kid riding a bike... take it all together and it defines us.
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sad very sad, no wounder america is the fatest nation on the planet.
We're not the fattest nation. England isn't remarkably different and Russia is much fatter. Look it up. Furthermore,
It's only ONE burger place that is just doing it to get a world record... like the people that have a giant ball of twine just to say they have the WORLD"S biggest ball of twine.
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Wealth minus values = America.
Values minus wealth = israel :D
How is Israel more virtuous? That's hard to argue considering that Israel is a rough country.
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values + wealth = norway...
What values? Try "oil wealth + respect for capitalism = Norway"... The US has a lot of oil, but not as much as Norway considering it's much smaller population.
Norway and the US are actually just about equal as far as wealth goes though if you look at it per person.
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You're all are crazy, it's just a big fucking cheese burger… a gag, a joke… sheesh. :lol:
Love and peace, Karmashock.
eXoRciSt
May 5, 2005, @ 02:50 AM
omg dude my grandma was telling me the same thign on the way home from school, lol
Papa Smurf
May 5, 2005, @ 12:01 PM
Russia fatter than the americans do me a favour! Man you are the most dilluded individual i have ever come across in my life.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0604-01.htm
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0141015403/026-0138538-4886000
http://www.rochester-citynews.com/gbase/Gyrosite/Content?oid=oid%3A1817
the one above is an american news paper and it says that offically america is the fattest nation o the planet.
hummm would seem yet again you are wrong Karma, it does make me wounder what sort of a warped mind you have to claim that Russians are fatter than Americans, I read that and laugh every time, do you have no clue whats going on in the world outside of your own boards, do you even know where Russia is, the state of their economy the climate etc, russia is a very poor country in general, and its people do not throw loads of money at fast food, nor do many in Russian even have access to this type of fast food.
you are a jingoist fool that lives in cloud coockoo land
YOU ARE THE FATTEST NATION ON THE PLANET EVERYONE KNOW IT INCLUDING AMERICAN, IT WOULD SEEM THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TO MAKE THESE RIDICULAS CLAIMS
RUSSIA A FATTER NATION THAT THE US LMFAO
Karmashock
May 5, 2005, @ 12:22 PM
Russia fatter than the americans do me a favour! Man you are the most dilluded individual i have ever come across in my life.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0604-01.htm
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0141015403/026-0138538-4886000
http://www.rochester-citynews.com/gbase/Gyrosite/Content?oid=oid%3A1817
Where was their citation? They just said it.
Without a citation their statement is no more worthy then mine... you need to have something to back up the words if you wish to challenge someone elses.
I'm looking... you should look too... interenational weight statistics or something as relevant.
hummm would seem yet again you are wrong Karma, it does make me wounder what sort of a warped mind you have to claim that Russians are fatter than Americans, I read that and laugh every time, do you have no clue whats going on in the world outside of your own boards, do you even know where Russia is, the state of their economy the climate etc, russia is a very poor country in general, and its people do not throw loads of money at fast food, nor do many in Russian even have access to this type of fast food.
Actually, being poor is more likely to make you fat so long as there is no shortage of food or you can still afford food. In america for example, the fatest people are poor people.
Also, you didn't cite a single source that was worth a shot glass of yack cum. I remember seeing something by the UN or the WHO that backed up my side, but I've been having a hard time finding it. I'll make a bigger effort...
And don't be offensive just to prove that you're a jackass, we already know it.
YOU ARE THE FATTEST NATION ON THE PLANET EVERYONE KNOW IT INCLUDING AMERICAN, IT WOULD SEEM THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TO MAKE THESE RIDICULAS CLAIMS
RUSSIA A FATTER NATION THAT THE US
If I prove you wrong, this display of arrogance should cause you to commute seppuku or something... I can hope...
Karmashock
May 5, 2005, @ 12:37 PM
here you go, from a real newspaper... http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,11381,1438700,00.html
and it's a hyper lefty rag so you'll probably respect it more...
I'm still looking for russia's stats... but as usual, I'll donkey fuck you on the topic, then you'll get all pissy and either pretend I didn't rape you in your left eye socket or change the subject to how much you don't like being raped in the eye...
Not my fault, by being a prick you asked for it.
JADezimar
May 5, 2005, @ 01:14 PM
Rofl another fact of papa smurf "obviously being right" hahahahahaha
Papa Smurf
May 5, 2005, @ 02:38 PM
LOL
1)The statisic you choose are one for one demographic group male adults i called america the fattest nation on the planet, and as a % of the population, you have the most
2) The Guardian lol hyper left wing do me a favour, it is left of center but it is a main stream paper, the is no way it can be compaired to a rag like the mail from the right lol Glad to see though that you consider your our press the real press so what are papers in the US bog roll?
you need to have something to back up the words if you wish to challenge someone elses.
You never seem too, but fair enough i will.
http://www.choicesmagazine.org/2004-3/obesity/2004-3-02-f01.gif
Note. Data from OECD Health Statistics, 2004.
http://www.choicesmagazine.org/2004-3/obesity/2004-3-02_print.htm
There you go, yes european nations do have an increasing problem, i never said we do not, the thing i laughed at most was that you thought russians were fatter than you, and its not even in the top 22. I have been to Russia and the US (odd that its not the done thing to smile in Russia unless you are extatic, it makes them very difficult to read)
I notice everytime i am abroad how much thinner the general populations are compaired to us, with one exception when i travel to the US, thats just a general impression lol though and just personal opion.
the problem area for the fastest growing rates of obesity andbeing over wieght are the UK and some dveloping countries so take heart Karma you might not be the fattest nation on the planet for long!
Did you actually think that one demographic group could be called the entire population, i think you are forgetting women, and children and teenages lol or was it just an act of desparation to try and be proved right just once?
look teenages
http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/healthmedical/a/teenobesity.htm
but that alone would not make you the fattest nation only that you have the fattest teenages you seer the diffrence? Oh look its the american government you are not allowed to question them Karma!
Karmashock
May 5, 2005, @ 03:33 PM
1)The statisic you choose are one for one demographic group male adults i called america the fattest nation on the planet, and as a % of the population, you have the most
We'll see if/when I can find the russian stats... Furthermore, the US isn't remarkably different from much of europe... I saw some EU report about an hour ago that had germany as being very very close to us.
2) The Guardian lol hyper left wing do me a favour, it is left of center but it is a main stream paper, the is no way it can be compaired to a rag like the mail from the right lol Glad to see though that you consider your our press the real press so what are papers in the US bog roll?
We judge political hackery differently. Like most americans I'm roughly in the MIDDLE of the political spectrum. Where as you demonstarted through your test that you're damn near off the fucking chart. The guardian is totally leftist, though they're responsible on anything that doesn't ask for their opinion. I'd put them to the left of the NYTs which is regarded by most americans to be leftwing... Just because neither of them rise to your standards of political hackery doesn't mean they aren't biased.
Would you as easily accept the Telegraph? I've been told it's biased to the right... though it's just as responsible on things in which its opinion is not a factor.
the thing i laughed at most was that you thought russians were fatter than you, and its not even in the top 22.
I saw some stats from the WHO that disagreed... as you're citing "choicemagazine" you can appreciate the difficulty in finding good stats.
the problem area for the fastest growing rates of obesity andbeing over wieght are the UK and some dveloping countries so take heart Karma you might not be the fattest nation on the planet for long!
*sigh* I started a funny thread about some people holding on to a world record and you turned it into an america bashing thread... Would you mind not paraciting off my threads and doing something to 'add' to the forum... anywhere? Start a discussion... say something funny... do something beside represent your perfect toolish 9 score to the left...
hero
May 5, 2005, @ 03:52 PM
What values? Try "oil wealth + respect for capitalism = Norway"... The US has a lot of oil, but not as much as Norway considering it's much smaller population.
omfg, you got Irak for christ sake! Tellin the world that u infiltrated Irak cuz of the weapons, Bush just wanted the oil, and now he's turnin Irak in a capitalist democratic country, hmmm isnt the USA also just that?
Karmashock
May 5, 2005, @ 03:57 PM
we're not getting the oil foolio, it's all being sold on the open market to pay for iraq's rebuilding. I doubt if much or any of it is going to the US at all. We get most of our oil from north or south america. We get very little from anywhere else. And why would we... the farther away it is the more it costs to ship it. The primary consumer of middle eastern oil is Asia.
If we wanted oil, then we would have just made a deal with saddam like france and russia did. Do some research...
Anyway, I wasn't insulting your country. Your nation's wealth is largely derived from his massive oil reserves though... look it up. I also noted you have a respect for capitalism which is NOT something Saddam's Iraq had. If one warlord controls the whole country's economy then that isn't capitalism. Norway is a great country... but values just doesn't seem like something you'd say about them. I'm not saying they're immoral... just nothing significant on that topic... you have huge minerial wealth and good economic sense...
I was fucking praising your stupid ass... For crying out loud, be proud of what you are, not what you're not.
Papa Smurf
May 5, 2005, @ 04:04 PM
no it did not Karma you just took it that way you over sensative retard
i said sad very sad, refering to that people would compete over such things and also that people actually do eat these it not like this was a one off they make them regularly, they do not make the string every week, i then went on to say that no wounder america was the fatest nation on the planet, because as i have proved they are, if you take being called fat as americvan bashing then your fucked you are fat as a nation over 60% are classed as over wieght.
We are the third fattest nation on the planet, we have the closest compariable lifestyle to americans in the EU thus we are suffering, mind then again we have never been the healthiest of nations and our eating habits have always been questionable, does this mean i am bashing Britian, no it does not its a simple statement of facts.
JADezimar
May 5, 2005, @ 04:13 PM
If you read Karma's link closer it goes into further detail and some of the countries included the women too.
You will also notice Karma's is around a year more updated ^^
Karmashock
May 5, 2005, @ 04:36 PM
Smurf, Americans are a healthy, productive people, with a huge contribution to medical science, and excellenct access to medical facilities. We are among the world's heaviest people. We might even be the fattest people on earth. But our weight either way is not exceptional. There are many countries that are very close to us whether we're on the top or not. I think i've posted a link here somewhere by the guardian that states that it isn't fast food that's making us fat as much as a more technological lifestyle... a less physically active lifestyle. Americans are different from the English in one important respect. We work a great deal more then you do. We put in more hours per week and more weeks per year. These aren't physically trying jobs, most of them have people behind desks or sitting in a chair at least. This more then anything is what's likely to contribute to our larger belt loops.
And more then anything, I'm just tired of the cheap ass fat jokes. They're old and stupid.
Papa Smurf
May 5, 2005, @ 06:09 PM
I am not making fat jokes it was a simple statement, you might be right and the US may of been over taken this year.
JAD do not confuse obesity and overwieght. the second half of that artical talks about obesity, i called america the fattest, not the most obese.
The artical is a little confussing, in the first part it talks about overwieght and obese, and in the second half it only talks about obesity.
We might even be the fattest people on earth. But our weight either way is not exceptional.
I totally agree with you there its not exceptional at all, and more and more countries are joining the fat club every year
a huge contribution to medical science
With out a shadow of a doubt
Americans are different from the English in one important respect. We work a great deal more then you do. We put in more hours per week and more weeks per year.
Wrong actually we work longer I could not say harder as that depends on the job, but on average you are a bunch of lazy sod by most european standards
Laborers in Switzerland, France and Italy work longer than the Germans, and the French and Italians work longest—an average 45-to 48-hour week. In Britain the work week has been reduced from an average 47.4 hours in 1960 to 42 this year. Europe's shortest work week is in Norway, where laborers spend an average 39.6 hours per week in the factories. But most other European nations have a way to go before they near the 40.4 hours put in by the average worker in the U.S.
http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,940746,00.html
Just because neither of them rise to your standards of political hackery doesn't mean they aren't biased.
emmm were did i say they were bias, all i said was that they are not hyper left wing, hyper left wing would be things like the socialist worker.
I think i've posted a link here somewhere by the guardian that states that it isn't fast food that's making us fat as much as a more technological lifestyle... a less physically active lifestyle.
next you'll be telling me its water retension not cake retension making people fat, come on its all of those things obviosly, no where would or have i claimed that it only fast food that make american of any other nation fat, i eat like a fucking horse, the most unhealthy crap god ever put on the planet, but until very recently i was extermally active playing alot of very high level rugby, going to the gym etc etc but i was not fat i had a perfectly flat shocach ahh sarah loved it, that has sadly gone now, as defination slips away as i age none too gravefully. But I was never fat because i was active its common sense man.
ps check this out i really did think you would be near the top of this but......
http://www.aneki.com/expectancy.html
not sure if this post makes any sense as i have not read it, illl edit when i gt home in a mo
Karmashock
May 5, 2005, @ 06:31 PM
http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,940746,00.html
Did you check the publishing date?
Aug. 30, 1963
Your info is more then 40 years old... I've made much smaller mistakes and you've spent paragraphs calling me a moron.
I'll just point out that that's a really bad goof... show me an artical that wasn't written before I was born.
Today we work much harder then you do. We used to be lazy, but the japs scared the crap out of us. All the while the protectionist policies in europe have only continued.
I'll wait for you to review some current stats... :agree:
Karmashock
May 5, 2005, @ 06:38 PM
I thought this was kind of funny...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$WUNXMU12B0NZBQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ 0IV0?xml=/news/2004/05/18/wfran18.xml&sSheet=/portal/2004/05/18/ixportal.html
the french have a mandated 35 hour work week... which I think is 10 hours fewer then you say they were working in your article...
the article I just posted is a year old... so maybe they've repealed it...
edit: yes they did...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7265807/
edit:
here is an article from 4 years ago... not very good... but at least it's in the right decade...
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/CAREER/trends/08/30/ilo.study/
JADezimar
May 5, 2005, @ 09:43 PM
I do not know the difference between obesity and fat.
Karmashock
May 6, 2005, @ 06:41 AM
it's a difference of degree... there is fat... and then there is really fat... both values are arbitary but you'd generally agree with both...
The Fell Hand
May 6, 2005, @ 07:39 AM
All I read was "commute seppuku"...yeah......
Actually that's one bigass burger. Ya better have a lot of people on hand for it...I wouldn't wanna look at the leftovers, or be the poor kid in the back throwing out the trash.
Papa Smurf
May 6, 2005, @ 08:59 AM
lol i never noticed that lmfao
I was actually very suprised at those results, i should of look closer, my mistake.
Karmashock
May 6, 2005, @ 10:56 PM
yeah, it's kind of impressive that the times has put their old records on to their website that far back...
anyway, I'm waiting on up to date stats....
Because if you thought euros worked harder then americans you NEED some education. I'm not burning you here, just please for your own information - look it up.
Americans were lazy bastards up until the 70s. The Japanese started to kick our asses at just about everything at that point. You'll notice that americans became obsessed with everything Japanese in the late 70s and 80s. However, we realized that all they were really doing is putting in more hours. So we cut vacation time, increased hours, and busted unions that refused to change with the times. The result was that more then half of our unions were either killed or died. Those that remained either remained lazy or changed... most that remained unfortunatedly remained lazy... but there are exceptions. Anyway the 80's are remembered as a ruthless time in american business because we went through some major changes.
It hurt some people but we became competitive again. England went through something simlar with Thatcher... but it wasn't as intense... the rest of europe didn't go through it at all. The result is that americans are the hardest working industialized power on the planet... and the hegemonic power.
Tank0
May 7, 2005, @ 03:55 AM
:lol:
son you prolly never worked a day in your life , you talk like you own the big bucks or a couple of factories .the common joe has a real advantage in a good unions .But be my guest , work long days and refuse vacation , make the boss even more dollars while you sink in the stress .
i am proud of our paid vacation , healthcare , schoolsystem , etc ...
sure it costs me an arm and a leg in taxes but the american system is even worse .
the real reason europe still has many unions is because they couldnt break the socialist solidarity .seriously if you even try to dismantle unions here they shut down the whole country . even the police and te military has the right to strike overhere ( they can be claimed for national security )
last time they tried to raise fuelprices for truckers , they shut down offramps and crucial intersections , the dockworkers joined in and the farmers followed in 2 days . when they closed the mines in the eighties overhere the strike was so strong they had to mobilize the army to keep brussels save ... it was a warzone
laserflip
May 7, 2005, @ 05:37 AM
sounds like a blast, tank
Karmashock
May 7, 2005, @ 08:18 AM
:lol:
son you prolly never worked a day in your life
wrong
you talk like you own the big bucks or a couple of factories .the common joe has a real advantage in a good unions .
He's not entitled to impose upon his employer. If he can't offer competitive labor, then the employer has a right not to hire him and go somewhere else.
In many cases that means the union dies with the closed factory.
i am proud of our paid vacation , healthcare , schoolsystem , etc ...
sure it costs me an arm and a leg in taxes but the american system is even worse .
Based upon what facts? We make more then you and have access to more medical care. Look at the number of doctors per person in the US alone. Check your facts then talk.
the real reason europe still has many unions is because they couldnt break the socialist solidarity .seriously if you even try to dismantle unions here they shut down the whole country . even the police and te military has the right to strike overhere ( they can be claimed for national security )
They tried to do that in the US, they were all fired. All of them.
last time they tried to raise fuelprices for truckers , they shut down offramps and crucial intersections , the dockworkers joined in and the farmers followed in 2 days . when they closed the mines in the eighties overhere the strike was so strong they had to mobilize the army to keep brussels save ... it was a warzone
They would have been put in jail for disturbing the peace.
I see nothing you've posted there that's worth bragging about... I honestly feel sorry for your country if it's in that situation.
mOle
May 7, 2005, @ 12:22 PM
oh yeah... i forgot i was warned from checking this part of the forum... never again
peace
Tank0
May 7, 2005, @ 01:39 PM
the employer is required to provide basic safety rules ; forbidden to hire childlabor ; is required to give his people lunchbrakes ; etc ... without unions we all would be working from age 12 getting paid mexican wages . if an employer can 't provide them with a profit like all the others he deserves to go bancrupt .
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stuff the facts , we dont have waitinglines , doctors still make housecalls , peope can afford all the drugs , if you want he fancy new yank drug you have to pay the large bucks otherwise we have a alternative without a patent . we have a limit on new medical students because we have to much doctors .overhere you check in a get helped right away
we have 20 paid vacation days and several paid holidays, we have a right to take parentvacation , we have preganancy leave , we are allowed to take a year of from our career and take timecredit .etc ......
your top universities have a high grade but our basic system is better , the level of education of the common joe is much higher . Why do you think the belgians move to the US? they get asked for math related jobs like crazy and many countries use belgian schoolbooks . ask round the belgian scholingsystem is widely respected .
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they tried to fire the strikers but the socialist party crippled the country overhere solidarity isnt a filthy word . i seriously begin to doubt your grasp with reality They would have been put in jail for disturbing the peace. do you really think they can arrest 150.000 people . imagine the nam protests in the seventies , you can spray and clobber them but you cant arrest them all , what you mention is Tineamen Square allover again
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I see nothing you've posted there that's worth bragging about... I honestly feel sorry for your country if it's in that situation.
:lol: my feelings exactly for the US
Tank0
May 7, 2005, @ 01:52 PM
sounds like a blast, tank
it was , if the police check a identitycard now and see he is a former miner they still are shaking in their boots . they wounded several policeofficers , even turned over a policetruck with the cops inside . it was the first and so far only time the block with the EU buildings was totally surrounded , rumors still go they got really close to opening fire on the crowd .
laser you should check the german chaostage on google or something, some mad riots overthere
http://www.chaos-tage.de/start.php4
Karmashock
May 7, 2005, @ 02:09 PM
the employer is required to provide basic safety rules ; forbidden to hire childlabor ; is required to give his people lunchbrakes ; etc ... without unions we all would be working from age 12 getting paid mexican wages . if an employer can 't provide them with a profit like all the others he deserves to go bancrupt .
The US has all of that without being ruled by the unions. There is such a thing as moderation. Certainly people are entitled to not be treated like chattle, however the company is the property of other people and their employment is at their discression. When you pass laws saying you can't fire someone, in all but the most extreme cases, you're volating the company's rights.
Consider the concept of the monoply. Just stop and think about the monoply and why it's powerful and good/bad.
When all labor BELONGS to the union and it has a monolopy on labor. All the things that apply to your thoughts on a typical monoply apply here. Which is why areas dominated by unions show the same problems as you'll see in for example the mexican phone system... which is a monoply - Ie uncompetitive prices, poor service, indifference to their customer, sloth, and generally sucking ass at what their supposed to do.
stuff the facts , we dont have waitinglines , doctors still make housecalls , peope can afford all the drugs , if you want he fancy new yank drug you have to pay the large bucks otherwise we have a alternative without a patent . we have a limit on new medical students because we have to much doctors .overhere you check in a get helped right away
I can't speak for your country, but in canada they don't give you some of the new fancy drugs and more importantly don't proform new more expensive medical proceedures.
A good example is heart 'port' surgury. This is as opposed to OPEN heart surgery where they CRACK your rib cage open. In heart port surgery it's all done between the rib cage gaps... it is however much more expensive and so is not done in canada by the state medical system. As a result there is a string of US private hospitals along the canadian boarder that deal almost entirely with canadian patients.
I can't speak to your system, centralization works best when you're dealing with small systems. It's no accident that Cuba is the world's most successful communist state... I believe they also have a good medical system. However such systems cannot be expanded... it's been mathematically proven... look it up, it's called complexity theory.
we have 20 paid vacation days and several paid holidays, we have a right to take parentvacation , we have preganancy leave , we are allowed to take a year of from our career and take timecredit .etc ......
I can't see how you have a "right" to any of that... perhaps a legal right, but I can't see a 'natural' right... such as the right to life or freedom. You BUY your paid vacation and you BUY your preganacy leave. Don't think that you don't buy it. Eventually it all comes around and you pay. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
your top universities have a high grade but our basic system is better , the level of education of the common joe is much higher . Why do you think the belgians move to the US? they get asked for math related jobs like crazy and many countries use belgian schoolbooks . ask round the belgian scholingsystem is widely respected .
Our basic system has to cope with things that your system likely does not. It's a matter of size and diversity. Much of their flaws too have been blamed on a bad teachers and their unions are infamous. Home schooling almost always out proforms even private education, which is well beyond public's levels.
As to the belgian school system, I really doubt it's even that well known over hear for it to have any kind of reputation.
The US demands more skilled people and unskilled people at a greater rate then many places because WE ARE GROWING. Our economy is growing faster then our population and we'll always need more skilled people.
they tried to fire the strikers but the socialist party crippled the country overhere solidarity isnt a filthy word . i seriously begin to doubt your grasp with reality do you really think they can arrest 150.000 people . imagine the nam protests in the seventies , you can spray and clobber them but you cant arrest them all , what you mention is Tineamen Square allover again
Americans have a different concept of what is theirs. Communism was rejected out right here long before the russians were even an issue. To be an individualist is to recognize property. To say something someone else made belongs to you is to say that something you have belong to them... and that's not a compromise we've been willing to make.
If you stormed an american city like that, it would be classified as a riot... and it would get gassed and rubber bullets until people went away coughing and aching.
If enough people believed that, then there would be no need. They'd just vote the law and win. If they lost, then any rioting would be treated as a criminal act.
my feelings exactly for the US
Your unemployment rate is twice that of my own country, your growth rate is nearly 2 percent lower then ours, americans make about 10,000s a year more then you do, and you're even in more debt then we are... and I didn't even look to see if your goods are more expensive thus making your earnings worth less in practicality... fyi throughout almost all of europe the PPP is about 20 percent higher then it is throughout most of the US... ie money will buy 20 percent more if the ppp is 20 percent lower.
Keep it up.
Rocking out in the free world, Karmashock.
2biT
May 7, 2005, @ 02:19 PM
Ive spent the last 1/2 hour reading this thread, I WANT IT BACK!
btw Uk rules and US sucks the horses cheese, perriod.
Karmashock
May 7, 2005, @ 02:35 PM
but the US is the home of the Colt 45...
Rubba Duck
May 7, 2005, @ 02:38 PM
Ive spent the last 1/2 hour reading this thread, I WANT IT BACK!
btw Uk rules and US sucks the horses cheese, perriod.
hell yeah!
Karma, US makes all exports cheap and slaps a big tax on all companies trying to import into the US, making sure only US companies prosper. The Dollar is weak at £1 = $1.89 the last time i looked, and US is the fattest nation on earth with over 1/3 of its population overweight or obese.
Hate and War, Rubba Duck
Karmashock
May 7, 2005, @ 02:49 PM
hell yeah!
Karma, US makes all exports cheap and slaps a big tax on all companies trying to import into the US, making sure only US companies prosper.
... we do that a LOT less then european countries do... so unless you're Equador, you don't get to complain.
The Dollar is weak at £1 = $1.89 the last time i looked
Dude, you do know how much the pound has historically slipped against the dollar right? Don't look at something like 5 years to judge everything. What was the ratio 50 years ago? People say "oh the euro is rising against the dollar"... well, what was the euro initially sold at when it first came out and where is it now.
The US currency is fine. We're having some issues, but historically we're doing very well.
and US is the fattest nation on earth with over 1/3 of its population overweight or obese.
As I point out already, the US is not unusual and might not even be the fattest though that hardly matters when you've got 15 other countries most of them european right behind you.
Hate and War, Rubba Duck
Tisk tisk *snaps duck's neck*
Love and peace, Karmashock.
Juggalo
May 7, 2005, @ 02:49 PM
I'm fat.
Whadya wanna do, huh!? Whadya gonna do about it!?
2biT
May 7, 2005, @ 02:50 PM
I see you didnt disagree with the statement then kar :p
Rubba Duck
May 7, 2005, @ 02:57 PM
I'm fat.
Whadya wanna do, huh!? Whadya gonna do about it!?
poke you, tormentingly.
As I point out already, the US is not unusual and might not even be the fattest though that hardly matters when you've got 15 other countries most of them european right behind you.
but youre STILL No1.
<<Sig Under Construction>>
Karmashock
May 7, 2005, @ 03:08 PM
I see you didnt disagree with the statement then kar :p
are you talking about the one where you said the US sucks?
Tell you what, turn off your internet, uninstall your OS, remove your American designed video card (I believe both ATI and nVidia are American companies…), disconnect your phone, turn off your light bulbs, and remove electricity from your house entirely...
Ok, now you've got a lot of the AMERICAN inventions out of your life... shall we continue?
Yeah we suck... we suck so hard we've had our flag on the MOON for decades...
*Rocking out in the free world*, Karmashock.
2biT
May 7, 2005, @ 03:12 PM
Dont start kam.
And the moon landing DID NOT happen.
Karmashock
May 7, 2005, @ 03:17 PM
Dont start kam.
And the moon landing DID NOT happen.
You’re right... that's a hoax that Bigfoot, Elvis, and the frozen head of Walt Disney cooked up... they did that right after assassinating JFK... but only with the guidance of George Washington’s ghost… :agree:
2biT
May 7, 2005, @ 03:19 PM
I can prove the moon landings didnt happen, and i should know i spent 3 years doing astropysics.
Karmashock
May 7, 2005, @ 03:38 PM
ok, prove it. (you're going to lose this 2bit... you're going to lose and the more you claim to be before you fall the harder you'll go down.)
and colt is as american as Coca Cola or Ford... you amuse me little one.
Next you'll be telling me Mickey Mouse is French... or McDonald's is Russian...
I rather doubt that colt even has a factory in europe... let alone britian... What's a famous british gun company? I'm sure you've got a few...
2biT
May 7, 2005, @ 03:44 PM
Dam your anally retentive.
As for the moon landings then watch the 'footage' of the flag beeing planted.
1. The flag is waving.
2. The shadows move in different directions.
3. Its the same landscape used as in different footage.
Karmashock
May 7, 2005, @ 03:55 PM
Dam your anally retentive.
As for the moon landings then watch the 'footage' of the flag beeing planted.
1. The flag is waving.
2. The shadows move in different directions.
3. Its the same landscape used as in different footage.
you do realize that your telescopes watched it go to the moon right?
And the flag isn't waving, it's vibrating because they just stuck it in the groudn... as to shadows, I need to see what you're talking about... as to landscape, it's the fucking moon! Go to the salt planes of nevada and everything will start looking the same too... doesn't mean that it's the exact same place. :lol:
Think about it bro, how fucking leet would america have to be to pull off a hoax like that? We're not that good at keeping secrets... we suck at being sneaky...
Do you think the physicists at your major universities believe we faked it? Of course not... because they've had enough education to know better... I mean just wow... THere was a bimbo in my astronomy course that believed that shit... but the teacher looked at her like she was talking about aliens taking over the north pole for a minute and we moved right along...
2biT
May 7, 2005, @ 06:55 PM
I believe they WENT to the moon, but they DID NOT land.
The flag is waving, waving! not vibrating, nobody touching it or anything, its psycially impossible.
On serveral bits of moon footage, the exact same landscape is shown. As in rocks and hills and shot from the same angle.
The complete lack of stars in the sky as well, hell ive spent a week at a observatory on the top of a fucking mountain with the moon out, and i saw more god dam stars than there is on the footage.
Why do you think Armstrong never talks about his trip??
Karmashock
May 8, 2005, @ 03:29 AM
I believe they WENT to the moon, but they DID NOT land.
The flag is waving, waving! not vibrating, nobody touching it or anything, its psycially impossible.
The greatest minds on the subject in england disagree with you.
On serveral bits of moon footage, the exact same landscape is shown. As in rocks and hills and shot from the same angle.
Prove it.
The complete lack of stars in the sky as well, hell ive spent a week at a observatory on the top of a fucking mountain with the moon out, and i saw more god dam stars than there is on the footage.
the camera was a portable model from fucking 30 years ago... the stars are more represented a slightly brighter background then anything...
Americans are good enough at making movies to make stars if we were faking it.
Why do you think Armstrong never talks about his trip??
You're on crack, he's written whole BOOKS on the topic. He's given a TON of interviews.... what the fuck are you talking about?
Rubba Duck
May 8, 2005, @ 09:15 PM
Yeah we suck... we suck so hard we've had our flag on the MOON for decades...
The flag should have represented earth, not just one country.
There was a bimbo in my astronomy course that believed that shit... but the teacher looked at her like she was talking about aliens taking over the north pole
That teacher shouldnt be a teacher, a teacher is supposed to respect everyone view, no matter how different from their own, and be a model to a class.
Prove it.
Find out for your self, rather than let him post, and then pick away at it.
Fire and Death, Rubba Duck
Karmashock
May 9, 2005, @ 07:24 AM
The flag should have represented earth, not just one country.
Why? It was our blood and money.
That teacher shouldnt be a teacher, a teacher is supposed to respect everyone view, no matter how different from their own, and be a model to a class.
Not all opinions are repectable... and the teacher wasn't being intentionally rude, he was just shocked by how stupid she was... he wasn't intentionally insulting her.
He very carefully explained why what she said made no sense... if anyone was intentionally rude it was the class... damn that shit was funny.
Find out for your self, rather than let him post, and then pick away at it.
I did, he's makeing claims and needs to back them up.
Fire and Death, Rubba Duck
bad karma, duck...
*get suffers from a massive heart attack*... so sad.
Papa Smurf
May 9, 2005, @ 10:30 AM
the moon landing did happen believe me i as there stood right next to Niel, i was just out of shot on the photo, honest guv!
Karmashock
May 9, 2005, @ 12:26 PM
are you saying that the people that say it's a hoax are respectable? or are you just making noise?
Larsson7
May 9, 2005, @ 12:36 PM
Karma - stop trolling about the moon landings.
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