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Wicksy
Feb 14, 2005, @ 12:01 AM
... but then again, I've never read a Steyn article that DOESN'T hit it right on the nail!
Here's todays. Enjoy!

On culture front, we're losing war (http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn/cst-edt-steyn13.html)
February 13, 2005
BY MARK STEYN SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST
Here are three small news items from around the world you might have missed:

1) An unemployed waitress in Berlin faces the loss of her welfare benefits after refusing a job as a prostitute in a legalized brothel.

2) A British court has ruled that a suspected terrorist from Algeria cannot be detained in custody because jail causes him to suffer a ''depressive illness.''

3) Seventeen-year-old Jeffrey Eden of Charlestown, R.I., has been awarded an A by his teacher and the ''Silver Key'' in the Rhode Island Scholastic Art Awards for a diorama titled ''Bush/Hitler and How History Repeats Itself.''

A trio of itsy-bitsy little stories from the foot of page 27 of your daily paper, if they made it at all. But they're as revealing about the course of the war as anything going on in Iraq. The Germans, in the bad old days when their preferred field of combat was France rather than Fraulein Helga's government-regulated bondage dungeon, used to talk about ''wehrwille'' -- war will. America, Britain, Australia and a select few other countries have demonstrated they can just about muster the ''war will'' on the battlefield. On the broader cultural front, where this war in the end will be won, there's little evidence of any kind of will.

The waitress forced into prostitution by the government pimp is, at one level, merely an example of the unintended consequences that follow every legislative initiative. But, at another, it's the logical reductio of the modern secular welfare state. Like all those European utopias John Kerry wants America to be more like, Germany has a permanently high unemployment rate and, as a result, penalizes those who refuse to take available jobs -- like providing ''sexual services.'' The welfare office in Gotha ordered a 23-year-old woman to attend an audition for a job as a ''nude model.''

As Queen Victoria is said to have advised her daughter on her wedding night, lie back and think of England. Now the welfare office says lie back and think of Germany. And why not? When you cede to the state the responsibility for feeding, clothing, housing yourself, for your parents' retirement and your own health care, it's hardly surprising they can't see what the big deal is about annexing your sex life as well. If a welfare state were a German S&M club, the government is the S and you're the M. The ''security'' of welfare is not usually quite such literal bondage, but it always is metaphorically.

When the Germans legalized their whorehouses, they thought it showed how relaxed and enlightened they were. The al-Qaida types take a different line: They think it's a sign that the West is decadent and weak and cannot survive. And they have a point: The government forcing women into prostitution is merely the latest example of the internal contradictions of the modern secular state.

That British court judgment is another. SIAC, the United Kingdom's anti-terrorist court, found in 2003 that the 35-year-old Algerian male in question had ''actively assisted terrorists who have links to al-Qaida.'' But he was released from Belmarsh Prison because of his ''depressive condition.'' I'd be in a depressive condition if I were a terrorist: The Afghan camps are gone, the Great Satan's liberated Iraq, and Osama re-emerges from his three-year sabbatical only to release a floppo ''Vote Kerry!'' video recycling a lot of lame Michael Moore gags. The more Islamists in a depressive condition the better. Maybe if they get sufficiently depressed they'll stop being terrorists and become trainee accountants or male hairdressers.

But this surely illustrates the impossibility of fighting terror as a law enforcement operation. By Western standards, every Islamic terrorist is ''depressive'' -- for a start, as suicide bombers, they're suicidal. Sen. Kerry, you'll recall, thought terrorism should be like prostitution: a nuisance. But, if these court judgments are any indication, it seems to be more like German prostitution: They're free to do what they want, and with the full backing of the legal system.

In such a world, it's good to know we still have the guts to finger the real bad guys. Thus, when Chariho Regional High School art teacher Lynn Norton set her pupils the task of expressing an idea three-dimensionally, Jeffrey Eden immediately thought of a diorama comparing Bush to Hitler. You might think that ought to be disqualified on the grounds that characterizing Bush as Hitler is about as two-dimensional as you can get, and it's less of a diorama than the diarrhea of leftist rhetoric, as poured forth by millions of moveon.org drones and nude Marin County feminist protesters and European activist puppeteers. But there's always room for one more, and Jeffrey's schoolmarm was thrilled at the way he did it so cutely, draping a swastika on one side and the Stars and Stripes on the other, and putting in little plastic soldiers -- Nazi and American, though who can tell the difference, right? -- and then adding his own penetrating observations on both Bush (''Saddam had no affiliation with the Taliban'') and his predecessor as Fuhrer (''Hitler's own justification was his own hatred.'' Hmm. What a testament to the quality of Rhode Island's ''Social Studies'' curriculum).

Well, Jeffrey's 17. One day, with a bit of luck, he'll realize Bush isn't Hitler. If he were, Jeffrey would be in the Bush Youth doing patriotic exercises in shorts every morning and singing the special Texan lyrics to the Horst Wessel song, and he wouldn't have time to do dioramas of dissent. But what are we to make of everyone else in this sorry story? The art teacher who gave him an A. The 15 judges in the Rhode Island Scholastic Art Awards who awarded him their ''silver key.'' The proprietor of Alperts Furniture Showroom in Seekonk where the winning ''art'' work is proudly on display. Are there no grown-ups left in Rhode Island?

I'm not worried about Iraq. As they demonstrated on Jan. 30, they'll be just fine. The western front is the important one in this war, the point of intersection between Islam and a liberal democratic tradition so mired in self-loathing it would rather destroy our civilization just to demonstrate its multicultural bona fides. It's not that young Eden knows nothing, but that neither his teachers, judges nor furniture showroom proprietors do. By contrast, our enemies know us very well, at least when it comes to courtroom strategies and canny manipulation of the fetish of ''tolerance.''

It's an open question whether the West will survive this twilight struggle: Europe almost certainly won't, America might; on the other hand, the psychosis to which much of the culture is in thrall may eventually reach a tipping point into mass civilizational suicide. And then the new barbarians will inherit, and young Master Eden will end his days pining for the rosy-hued nostalgia of the Bushitler tyranny.

Karmashock
Feb 14, 2005, @ 12:13 AM
I think we're winning the culture war. ;)

JADezimar
Feb 14, 2005, @ 12:20 PM
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I honestly cannot say we are LOSING, I cannot say were winning either though, The U.S. and the rest of the world are becoming by far more polarized. Tolerance of the other polotical party is getting outrageous. Especially the lefts tolerance, I am in physical harm when I say I am a republican. This is the same with other countries not just america. If I say I am republican, I get scoffed at. It is rediculous. But it just goes to show I would definitely rather be a republican.

Tank0
Feb 14, 2005, @ 02:24 PM
overhere its the opposite
Belgium is one of the most poluted regions of europe , but if i dare to mention i am a member of the green party i get ridiculed and bullied (example : i get jobs to do just for the lunchbreak so i miss most of it )

being extreme right is becoming "cool" overhere , you arent part of the in crowd unless you are looking down on the turkish immegrants . If i got hit the pubs with my muslim friends we cant get into a single club or pub , suddenly its a private club when we arrive

Papa Smurf
Feb 14, 2005, @ 05:35 PM
You have no culture, how can you win with what you do not have.

That article is the worst rightwing dogma in the world, its so right wing its painful to my eyes.

I remember the specifics of the British case he quoted, the links were tenuous at best, he was not freed he was released and tagged, he is confined to his house with a guard, he has no access to the internet, or phone. He was very ill, the depression which you so casually dismiss was a form of manic depression, which raised serious concerns over weather he would try and committee suicide. So justify to my why he should be kept inside? Is he guilty? NO he has not and is unlikely to ever stand trial, innocent till proven guilty?

Land of the free my arse, land of the scared, land of the used to be free, the fact that this man criticizes someone for a piece of Art, the title may be a little controversial but has he seen the piece? things should be judged on merit, I thought that was the American way, you could succeed in life as long as you had talent and could use it. Here we have a man blindly criticizing a piece of ART and the teacher, because it went against the grain, isn't that what art does, isn't it the job of teacher to turn young people into free thinkers, I know all your teachers seem to of done a bad job, but I mean come on.

Land of the free, was something you could be proud of, it was something the rest of the world admired, but no longer.

lol after Korea and Vietnam, you would of thought the lessons would of been learnt by now, not everything in life is about winning and losing, games played on a computer yes, but real life tends to be a little more complexe than that.

Karmashock
Feb 14, 2005, @ 08:43 PM
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I honestly cannot say we are LOSING, I cannot say were winning either though, The U.S. and the rest of the world are becoming by far more polarized. Tolerance of the other polotical party is getting outrageous. Especially the lefts tolerance, I am in physical harm when I say I am a republican. This is the same with other countries not just america. If I say I am republican, I get scoffed at. It is rediculous. But it just goes to show I would definitely rather be a republican.
that's just a sign of weakness on the otherside... they're burning themselves out with that stupidity.


I think there's a saying about 'not correcting your enemy when he's defeating himself'... or something like that.
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overhere its the opposite
Belgium is one of the most poluted regions of europe , but if i dare to mention i am a member of the green party i get ridiculed and bullied (example : i get jobs to do just for the lunchbreak so i miss most of it )

being extreme right is becoming "cool" overhere , you arent part of the in crowd unless you are looking down on the turkish immegrants . If i got hit the pubs with my muslim friends we cant get into a single club or pub , suddenly its a private club when we arrive
American right and Belgium right are not the same things... neither of our two main parties has any racist leanings.

I don't know if your right party has those leanings either... It might just be the way they're dealing with immigration control... which is a problem all over the western world. All of our countries need to be selective about who they let in. At this stage in our economies we need educated professionals or people with money.

I don't think I need to tell you how out of control our boarder with mexico is... we get over a million ILLEGAL immigrents from mexico a year... it's just nuts.

shutupandshave
Feb 16, 2005, @ 10:44 AM
I dont like that article

It suggests that
1) well that's madness and I agree with that

2) Ignores the fact he has a depressive "illness"... This is England we should treat everyone in our country with common human decency. No where does the ACTUAL report suggest that it is being in prison that gives him the illness. Another example of twisting of the truth.

3) What happened to the freedom of speech? Hell the German chancellor (I think) said that the US is headed towards fascism... it's not an uncommon view among the people of the world, and some of the leaders of the nations of the world.

If twisting the truth and attacking children for trying to think for themselves is what you believe in - you keep believing in it.

Karmashock
Feb 16, 2005, @ 10:48 AM
3) What happened to the freedom of speech? Hell the German chancellor (I think) said that the US is headed towards fascism... it's not an uncommon view among the people of the world, and some of the leaders of the nations of the world.

If twisting the truth and attacking children for trying to think for themselves is what you believe in - you keep believing in it.
perspective... the same school would likely not only not reward an effort that came to the opposite conclusion but likely censor it.

I can't speak to germany or england... but I know my country.

stats
Feb 16, 2005, @ 10:51 AM
LOL karma, if you dont unignore papa then this forum is going to start to consist of you saying something and wicksy and that JAD thing agreeing with you...

shutupandshave
Feb 16, 2005, @ 10:53 AM
Personally, I believe it best to encourage creativity wherever it came from.

I think the difference between what the boy is doing, and what your "opposite" would be doing, would be compaigning against war and death, and campaigning FOR it.

Karmashock
Feb 16, 2005, @ 11:02 AM
LOL karma, if you dont unignore papa then this forum is going to start to consist of you saying something and wicksy and that JAD thing agreeing with you...
nah, if that's what I wanted, then I would have ignored everyone but them.

I specifically ignored those that have no interest in anything but stirring stuff up.

I caught both of those people in dishonest arguements and that was the end of it.

I want decend discussions here. If you just come here to flame or stir people up, then fuck off. ;)

shutupandshave
Feb 16, 2005, @ 11:03 AM
I have caught you in dishonest arguments many time. I have caught you flaming and lying to make yourself right.

I believe in freedom of speech though.

Karmashock
Feb 16, 2005, @ 11:14 AM
I have caught you in dishonest arguments many time. I have caught you flaming and lying to make yourself right.
No you haven't. 8-)


Dude, do you want shit? Get on topic or STFU. I'm tired of this bullshit.