[for fun] Guess the historical figure

[Karmashock]

the rules are these...

1.Put up a clear and well known picture or painting of a historical figure from your country's past.
2. Don't provide any info for it... and see who knows who these people are...

3. It is CHEATING to look at the source of the photo to see the site it was taken off of.

4. You can answer out of memory or you can double check your guess by typing who you think it is into google first to match them.


I'll start it off with this American icon.
http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/jah/87.3/images/mr_7_f1.jpg
The photo isn't great, but it gives you a good hint to its age. Furthermore, its a VERY well known picture.

any american kid that didn't see this picture a couple times in history class got a crap education.

[stats]

Is it washington?

here's mine:

http://www.homesweethomefront.co.uk/images/jpeg/hshf_img_bulldog.jpg

dead easy 8-)

[Karmashock]

nope... Do you think we had camera's back then? All of Washington’s imagines are engraved, carved, or painted.

Churchill?

[stats]

yup - and yes... i thought u did have camera's back then....

[Karmashock]

Nope :)
First President
1789-1797

Born: February 22, 1732 in Westmoreland County, Virginia

Died: December 14, 1799 in Mount Vernon, Virginia
a little hint...
1937 Daguerre’s first daguerreotype - the first image that was fixed and did not fade and needed under thirty minutes of light exposure.
1840 First American patent issued in photography to Alexander Wolcott for his camera.
1841 William Henry Talbot patents the Calotype process - the first negative-positive process making possible the first multiple copies.
1843 First advertisement with a photograph made in Philadelphia.
1851 Frederick Scott Archer invented the Collodion process - images required only two or three seconds of light exposure.
1859 Panoramic camera patented - the Sutton.
1861 Oliver Wendell Holmes invents stereoscope viewer.
1865 Photographs and photographic negatives are added to protected works under copyright.
1871 Richard Leach Maddox invented the gelatin dry plate silver bromide process - negatives no longer had to be developed immediately.
1880 Eastman Dry Plate Company founded.
1884 Eastman invents flexible, paper-based photographic film.
1888 Eastman patents Kodak roll-film camera.
1898 Reverend Hannibal Goodwin patents celluloid photographic film.
1900 First mass-marketed camera—the Browning.
1913/1914 First 35mm still camera developed.

[Juggalo]

I can't quite see what is in his hand..... I have no idea...

And that Churchill picture was a no brainer. Of coarse all I do is study WWII for the hell of it. I like to know about our past.

Here's mine:

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-P-Strategy/img/USA-P-Strategy-18.jpg

This is way to easy, but I dont want to look for a good picture of the person I was going to do.

[stats]

Cool karma - i was just saying that i did think there was cameras.. thats all.

[Karmashock]

You're supposed to put one up from your own country... so we at least have some idea.

what nation is this guy from?... he looks imperial japanese... but I can't say beyond that.

[Juggalo]

oh, hehehe, sorry bout that. but yeah, Japan. not giving the time period, that is a total give away...

[Karmashock]

another hint

http://teachpol.tcnj.edu/amer_pol_hist/fi/000000ae.jpg

[stats]

Lincon?

[Karmashock]

nope... right period and relevent issues though...
http://www.swarthmore.edu/Humanities/kjohnso1/pictures/brownstairs.jpg

[Juggalo]

Benedict Arnold???


Just a guess.....

[Juggalo]

NO! OMG I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME!!!!!!!!! was it a southern General??

[stats]

Curtis. (you'll excuse my poor american history - i was unaware amerca HAD a history till the other week... )

[Karmashock]

oh, hehehe, sorry bout that. but yeah, Japan. not giving the time period, that is a total give away...
do we have anyone here from japan?... I don't think so... but I don't know everyeon...


I'm guessing he's a WWII general... or maybe the emperior... I'd have to review the portrats.

[stats]

Not 'curtis' then karma?

[Juggalo]

Close enough. It was Hideki Tojo. Japanese leader during WWII.

Here is one from America:

http://history.acusd.edu/cdr2/WW2Pics/04502.GIF

[Karmashock]

Curtis. (you'll excuse my poor american history - i was unaware amerca HAD a history till the other week... )
we have shit loads of it... I'm pretty good with it and I learn new stuff all the time.

we have many factions and many different goals... it isn't right to think of hte US as one country... most countries are more unified then we are...


The guy I'm posting is from Puritian stock... which explains the stealy gaze he has... the puritians were nutters... extremely moral... very very very christian...

he's also obviously from the north...

I'll tell you who it is later and why he's interesting... great story about him... lots of blood and guts... but no sex... or swearing... or taking the lord's name in vane... it didn't happen on a sunday either.

edit: not curtis... I don't even know which curtis you're refering to... I can't think of anyone famious by that name at that time.

[stats]

He was a leader during ur civil war. i think.

Maybe Sherman? as in willian T?

[Edit] And that was a joke Karma...

[stats]

John Brown! have it!

[DrunkenUno]

Karmas=John Brown.

Juggs=Tojo

[Karmashock]

William Tecumseh Sherman is who you're thinking of... middle name comes from a powerful Shawnee indian leader... allied with the british in the war of 1812 and died as both the british and the indians retreated from William Henry Harrison's calverly.
http://www.historycomesalive.ca/canadians/images/tecumseh.jpg
That's just Tecumseh of the Shawnee though...


Gen. Sheman was the leader of the most devestating army during the civil war. He practiced total war upon the south... nothing lay in his wake but ash... and the chimneys of burned buildings...

His plain for reconstruction was to kill all the slave owners... or at least the large slave owners.

In retrospect his plan was probably a good idea... those bastards delayed reconstruction until the 1940~60s when it could have been done with by the 1880s.

sherman
http://faculty.molloy.edu/mrusso/heroes/sherman.jpg

just about the last guy you want to fight... he had no problem with bleeding you slow and to the bone.

[DrunkenUno]

Sherman pwnt.

[stats]

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/upload/img_400/F2160-5.jpg

No face - but it should be easy enough to know who this is.

[DrunkenUno]

Naploeon?

http://teachpol.tcnj.edu/amer_pol_hist/fi/000000bf.jpg

Fuck MVB's viewing the thread and will get this one.

[stats]

no, its not napoleon. and im not french.

[MVB]

All these blunt references, pfft

http://www.randomhouse.com/features/godsgenerals/chamberlain.gif

Anyone who can give me an accurate, not copypasted recounting of this guy's name and significant history will get a prize.

[Juggalo]

Hollow Man?? Referring ot Stats post.

[Karmashock]

John Brown! have it!
Good work... this guy road into charlston with a wagon load of weapons, his sons, and a few freed slaves and tried to get the whole city's slave population to rise up.

none did.

I believe he and his sons hacked one guy to pieces with broad swords...

He was captured in the engine house of the local rail road... his sons and freed black compagions died.

He stood trial and was killed.


He was a massive symbol for abolition of slavery and later the civil war. Some black scholar of the time remarked that John Brown felt more strongly about ending slavery then they did.

here is a famous statue of what puritans looked like... sort of the forebearers of john brown...
http://www.izaak.unh.edu/images/specoll/mancoll/PURITAN.JPG

not a good shot, but it gets the eyes which are the most important.

brown's statement to the court (prior to conviction and execution)
I see a book kissed which I suppose to be the Bible, or at least the New Testament, which teaches me that all things whatsoever I would that men should do unto me, I should do even so to them. It teaches me further to remember them that are in bonds as bound with them. I endeavored to act up to that instruction. I say that I am yet too young to understand that God is any respecter of persons. I believe that to have interfered as I have done, as I have always freely admitted I have done in behalf of His despised poor, I dod no wrong, but right. Now if it is deemed necessary that I should forfeit my life for the furtherance of the ends of justice and mingle my blood further with the blood of my children and with the blood of millions in this slave country whose rights are disregarded by wicked, cruel and unjust enactments, I say, let it be done.

[stats]

Lieutenant Colonel Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain - to MVB

ack: He was promoted to Brigadier General in 1864.

congressional medal of honor awarded to him after the battle of little big top and was the governer of maine at some point. He wrote the passing of armies also

[stats]

No, juggalo. He is probably one of the UKs most famour military figuers - if i gave you his face youd all know it instantly. He wore that very uniform though

[Karmashock]

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/upload/img_400/F2160-5.jpg

No face - but it should be easy enough to know who this is.
if it isn't napoleon, then I'm out of ideas.
no, its not napoleon. and im not french.
this is a shot in the dark... Lord Nelson?
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All these blunt references, pfft

http://www.randomhouse.com/features/godsgenerals/chamberlain.gif

Anyone who can give me an accurate, not copypasted recounting of this guy's name and significant history will get a prize.
you'd better not be refering to me... wrote everything but direct quotes out from memory... and John Brown isn't hyper obvious.

[stats]

Yes karma, nelson

[MVB]

That'd be the president of the Confederate States of America, Jefferson Davis.

Karma, you've got the right ID, but your info is pretty flawed (such as the battle he was at, wasn't BIG round top) ... still waiting for someone to give a detailed history of JLC for aprize.

[stats]

Hey isnt that detailed enough?

[stats]

Sorry, it was 'little round top'

[Karmashock]

Karma, you've got the right ID, but your info is pretty flawed (such as the battle he was at, wasn't BIG round top)
What?... when did I cite any battle by name? So far I haven't... I've refered to battles, but not mentioned their name.

I said something about the shawnee leader... which was accurate... and I said that Sherman practiced total war... which he did.

what are you talking about?

[stats]

Lieutenant Colonel Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain - to MVB

ack: He was promoted to Brigadier General in 1864.

congressional medal of honor awarded to him after the battle of little big top and was the governer of maine at some point. He wrote the passing of armies also

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Last edited by stats : Today at 01:33 PM.

He thinks u posted this. But i did =[

And i want a prize for it

[Karmashock]

Who am Iah!?!
http://www.civil-war.net/cw_images/files/images/198.jpg

[stats]

http://www.npg.org.uk/live/OC_Data/images/weblg/1/9/mw03419.jpg

try this one :)

And if you can give me his Full name and accurate history i will give YOU a prize, michael

[Karmashock]

one of our first settlements was named after him... t'was in Virginia. :D

kind of funny considering this douche was one of the reasons we left :P

edit-talking about your guy, not mine... obviously...

[stats]

The world was flat when this dude was around karma...

[Karmashock]

that totally james the first... earily 1600s...

If I'm wrong, then it's because your picture is tiny and I can't see anything :D

[stats]

MY BAD KARMA - SHIT! GOT DATES MUDDLED

your right - give me his detailed history and pm me your adress and ill send you a prize

[Karmashock]

uh... all I know is that he was big on catholism and oppressed the protestants... so they left...

he also signed the charter for the virginia company with it's first settlement of "Jamestown"... which was a pretty big mess... indians saved them staving...

so that's what I know about him... I could read up and post that, but it would be a lie... that's all I knew from before.

tutors were protestant or at least anti catholic... and stewarts were pro catholism.

*the colony came under direct rule of the crown in 1624... I assume by his order...

[stats]

so, thats all i did. Go for it.

[Karmashock]

its so much better when you pick out the relevent stuff and talk about it though... I did that for sherman and John Brown...


Come on... your turn... tell me something about this guy... I don't need a prize :)

[stats]

Bah: Ages since i studied this sorta thing,

ok basically he was the king james the vi of scotland for about 36 years when elizebeth the first (who imprissoned his mother - god i love the old ways) died without an heir. He then became king james I of england. The english lords and ladies hated him - who wanted a smelly scott ruling over england? (i would have, i was born in oban) The catholics hated him too. Guy folkes was trying to kill him too when he treid to blow up parliment.

Despite all the attempts to assasinate him he was a very successfull king and was the most intelectual king ever to sit on either thrown.

He was the first King to unite england and scotland and ireland and coined the phrase 'Great Britain'.

His son was a retard.

Also heard that he was crippled but i dont think this is true.

[Karmashock]

he only had one son?... We did better then that in the colonies and we had an infant mortality rate of about 50~70% in those days...

[stats]

He only had one son that mattered. King charles I. He was a moron.

[Karmashock]

chartered Maryland, England's first and last catholic settlement.

uh... pissed off more of the protestants and puritans... sending them here...

not much else happened from our perspective...

[MVB]

Stats, your description of Chamberlain blows and is not prize-worthy.

[Justice]

http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs3/louis16france.jpg

cheers, and
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[Bentusi]

oh ffs i've actually studied that picture justice.

It's one of the Georges, the 5th I think

EDIT: Nevermind, i'm wrong

[Bentusi]

here's a tough one. A cookie for whoever gets it

http://www.todayinliterature.com/assets/portraits/m/sir-thomas-more-170x225.jpg

[Karmashock]

Guys, ONLY PEOPLE FROM YOUR COUNTRIES!

[Karmashock]

Who am Iah!?!
http://www.civil-war.net/cw_images/files/images/198.jpg

he had three names... just like everyone like him.

[Bentusi]

oh screw you karma it's fairly damn CLOSE.

And as for your guy, shot in the dark.. John Wilks Booth

[Karmashock]

yep... no man changed US politics so much so quickly.

[stats]

awwwww MVB You are CRUEL and you are MEAN and you made me CRY!

[Karmashock]

As much of a retard as Charles the first was... this guy was a bigger retard... I have some stories once you cite the cunt.

http://teachpol.tcnj.edu/amer_pol_hist/fi/000000d2.jpg

[stats]

LOL karma, i thought only english people could get away with saying 'see you next tuesday'. If you want to increase the effectiveness of the cunt word, for those occasions where it simply isnt enough, try: You muggy little cunt. and also try to pronounce it K hun T, really emphesising the K and the T and curl up your lower lip. It makes me happy to see americans learning to swear properly. Well done!!

[Karmashock]

"see you next tuesday"?... wtf does that mean?


As to swearing... what you're talking about is "smack" talk... and believe me, americans are great at it... it's just something we're more prone to when being silly or bragging.

[stats]

c u nxt tuesday

[Karmashock]

I don't know why you'd think we didn't use the word... I think our media has enough swearing in it for you to realize we're fairly uninhibited by that sort of thing.

I do like a lot of british slang though... I dled all the red dwarf eps and picked up "twonk" and "ponce," which I use pretty freely.

Anyway, put a name to that degenerate fecal smear above.

[Bentusi]

nobody still hasn't gotten my guy (or even tried).

And in my defense at the time he lived my country wasn't in existance, so it's legal

[Karmashock]

http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs3/louis16france.jpg
biggest shit eatting grin... ever.

[Dezmo1218]

No more is this 'Guess the historical figure", but more of "Guess the shitbag!". I like it.

Karma: Louis XVI
Bentusiguru: Looks to me like a lovechild between Chris Columbus and Desiderius Erasmus. I KNOW I've seen that picture before. Problem is, there's so many portraits that look too much like that one, heck, if it wasn't for the lack of triple-chin, I'd say it was Martin Luther. It'd help to know what country he might be from. Definitely know he's an artist.

Anyways,
Here's mine:

http://www.etsu.edu/cas/history/resources/Private/Faculty/Fac_To1877ChapterDocFiles/ChapterImages/Ch11JosephSmith.jpg

:sleep:

[Karmashock]

... no Mine was this: http://teachpol.tcnj.edu/amer_pol_hist/fi/000000d2.jpg
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as to yours...
... well... the style is 1800s...

and the pages mean he was famous for his ideas or plans...

I know you're a native english speaker... so that limits the number of countries he could have come from...

going by the cloths and the above information, I would say american, canadian, or english... the cloths just doesn't strike me as an ausse.

uh.... I'm dry.

[Dezmo1218]

Anyone else? Karma, need a hint?

[Bentusi]

Hints for my guy:

He is English, and is Not an artist.

He was killed by the King of England at the time.

Should help

[Dezmo1218]

It's not Beckett, is it? Seems too modern.. I can't think of anything else off the top of my head.

[stats]

Bent: looks like cromwell but i thought he just died. so no idea.

[Bentusi]

your hitting very close to the mark stats

My LAST hint, if you can't get it after this you fail at life:

The man in the painting is featured as the main character in a play who's anagram is AMFAS

[Dezmo1218]

I can't for the life of me figure out what play you are talking about.. Smafa? Mafas? Afmas? Afams? Aamfs? :wtf:

[tom]

As much of a retard as Charles the first was... this guy was a bigger retard... I have some stories once you cite the cunt.

http://teachpol.tcnj.edu/amer_pol_hist/fi/000000d2.jpg

He looks so familiar, yet can't place my finger on it.

I need hintz!

[stats]

A man for all seasons. so it's Thomas More. gg bent. but giving the play made it to easy

[Karmashock]

I've been doing guys from the mid 1800's America... John brown, John Wilks Booth, and the above.

He's from the civil war... major political figure... total fucktard.

[Dezmo1218]

Someone work on mine, damnit!

Here's a hint... :freak:

Some revere him as the new "Jesus", and follow in his "wisdom". :confused:

Doubt that will help, but he IS American. :agree:

[Karmashock]

he's moron then... I don't know any of them...

I'm assuming he isn't the guy that 'found' the golden tablets and then hid them before anyone else could see them...


I like mormons... I like them more then most people... they have scruples... but their religion is just goofy... not that that matters... just kind of remarkable...




WORK ON MY GUY... he's HUGE!...

*sigh* He was president!

[Dezmo1218]

Yep, it's Joseph Smith, founder and prophet of the Mormon religion. :lol:

[Bentusi]

mid 1800-'s..

not Andrew Jackson? Cause it doesn't look like Grant or Lincoln

[Karmashock]

oops, I meant mormon... I didn't mean to call them morons... they're not... just weird... TYPO!


Anyway, yeah... Andrew Jackson it is... and he was a tard.


Metaphorically peeing on his stupid presidency, Karmashock.