Avignon LvL 70 Warlock (ye ye im back)

[Avignon]

Character Name: Avignon
Class: Warlock
Level: 70
Spec: 7/43/11 (gona change it soon probably once i get epic mount)
Overall Equipment: Hmm, never looked much at stats @ 8k hp and well my spell dmg varies alot but in Instances / raids its just over 900
Reasons for Joining: Its complicated, i want back so i can get my normal Daily "dose" wich so far i havnt been able to :- /. That and ofc i miss you guys specialy after what Mormmegill tells me :P
How did you hear about us: Agnatal Initialy ;-)

Some Facts: Well most of you know me, ive been in chapter before, i left because back then chapter was to casual for me, i have to addmit it its not only that i wanted to raid more, i NEEDED to raid more, but now (yes yes like a little rat or something) im comming back so... yeah. Also, im 16, From Romania, play like a addict, can do Heroic CoT, and have Karazhan Prequest, also i know how to do the Kael'Prequest just need the Cypher of Damnation questline and the rep for the heroic instances first.... Have Mic and ventrillo (TS to).

[MT Silver]

Whoa....

Lots of memories coming back here...

Hope you get back in ^^

[incubis]

I dont think ppl want you back tbh

[incubis]

but yeah see if krag wants it.. i dont have problems with it, but some might have ^^

[Qutech]

Atm we are only have on karazhan raid at the time and we can't fit more than one warlock at the time joining which would mean you would be able to raid much. Besides we have 3 active lvl 70 warlocks and 2/3 more than halfway to 70. We have enought atm, and we can't stand there in some weeks with to many warlocks.

And personally I don't want you back and I know there are other ppl that dosen't want you back too.

I would say that his application is denied.

[Veneficus]

I LEIK AVIGNON!

[Cuttroat]

Lame, who would not want him back, you are just laming your karazhan spots.
Remember, 25 man raids would like another one imo.

[Vildoomer]

Atm we are only have on karazhan raid at the time and we can't fit more than one warlock at the time joining which would mean you would be able to raid much. Besides we have 3 active lvl 70 warlocks and 2/3 more than halfway to 70. We have enought atm, and we can't stand there in some weeks with to many warlocks.

And personally I don't want you back and I know there are other ppl that dosen't want you back too.

I would say that his application is denied.

If he doesn't get in Isay qutech gets kicked out, he left once and you should NEVER let your personal issues affect your decision on this, But yeah I dont think you should be warlock leader anyway. Mainly because you suck. But yeah I'm not playing anymore, which is one of the reasons tbh.

And we always gave people second chances, so why not him.. He hasnt done anything wrong, he left once, which to my knowledge is acceptable.

And you all know my history with him.

[incubis]

I actually agree with Agnatal, over the forgive shit :P

[MT Silver]

If he doesn't get in Isay qutech gets kicked out, he left once and you should NEVER let your personal issues affect your decision on this, But yeah I dont think you should be warlock leader anyway. Mainly because you suck. But yeah I'm not playing anymore, which is one of the reasons tbh.

And we always gave people second chances, so why not him.. He hasnt done anything wrong, he left once, which to my knowledge is acceptable.

And you all know my history with him.

I find it ironic that YOU are the one saying this :P

But I agree. You should give Avignon a chance. But I'm not the leader so...

[Vildoomer]

Its a matter of principle, not of opinion.

[Qutech]

If he doesn't get in Isay qutech gets kicked out, he left once and you should NEVER let your personal issues affect your decision on this, But yeah I dont think you should be warlock leader anyway. Mainly because you suck. But yeah I'm not playing anymore, which is one of the reasons tbh.

And we always gave people second chances, so why not him.. He hasnt done anything wrong, he left once, which to my knowledge is acceptable.

And you all know my history with him.

it's not about second chances, there are ppl that don't like him. Getting him back would mean drama. I gave more the enough reason to why we don't need more warlocks atm BEFORE I posted my own opinion about it.

And besides, I am after all the warlock leader if I don't like the warlocks that are in the guild that would be really wrong.

Lame, who would not want him back, you are just laming your karazhan spots.
Remember, 25 man raids would like another one imo.

"Besides we have 3 active lvl 70 warlocks and 2/3 more than halfway to 70. We have enought atm, and we can't stand there in some weeks with to many warlocks."

[TooTall]

Most of you know the history of Avignon when he was in Chapter Two. And if you just know this, you would probably be willing to give him a second chance.

But... during his time in Furieux he tried to ninja several of our members. He did not only ask them if they wanted to join but also kept talking about it unasked, trying to force it upon those people, me included. This is something that was at the time discussed with Kragoth and we agreed that this was unacceptable behavior.

Combine this behavoir with the fact that he's disliked by several members and that we allready got enough warlocks as it is (remember Cuttroat, deciding if there are enough members of a certain class in the guild is up to the class leader of that certain class, not to you :P) I'm pretty sure Qutech's post is correct and this application is denied.

[Avignon]

i didnt want to "ninja" anyone belive it or not i was trying to help, but fine i gues im not wanted here, great no going back either, time to look for a new guild --__--. And... as far i know i dont have issues with anyone, was only figthing with agnatal back then....

[Vildoomer]

Jup I was the only one he was really fighting with, and it wasnt even his fault. Besides, that's in the past. I wouldn't know anyone besides qutech who doesn't like him. As far as the ninja'ing guild members goes ,I know nothing of that and I am pretty sure I was still around then.

And qutech, you not liking him says more about you then it does about him, he has done nothing wrong and you know it. Just shows how much of a bad choice they made making you class leader.

Anyway I dont think this matter should be decided by the class leader but by the guild leader.

Tootall you're only saying that because she is your "Girlfriend" and you know it, he deserves a second chance, he has done nothing wrong.

Name other people who don't like him, please prove me wrong.

[mormmegil]

Damn u cauzed a long thread to come up but still, u beeing a IRL of mine can't deny u coming back since i got here cuz of u :)

[Qutech]

Name other people who don't like him, please prove me wrong.

Shadowclouk to name one, Tootall to name two. The rest should speak for themself if they got the curage to do so.

[Vildoomer]

Shadowclouk to name one, Tootall to name two. The rest should speak for themself if they got the curage to do so.

Ow and I wonder why tootall doesnt like him.

I never heard clouk complain of him, and if he did, it's still only one person besides you, and Im not counting toot for obvious reasons.

[Cpu]

And qutech, you not liking him says more about you then it does about him, he has done nothing wrong and you know it. Just shows how much of a bad choice they made making you class leader.

Anyway I dont think this matter should be decided by the class leader but by the guild leader.

Tootall you're only saying that because she is your "Girlfriend" and you know it, he deserves a second chance, he has done nothing wrong.


Ag if you want a say in the lock stuff my tip is to start playing some and actually try to be somewhat polite in saying what you want. Behaving like a prat wont make people like what your pointing out.

Besides we are three very active locks (as Qutech said, and she knows what she's talking about imo...) and a few more in tyhe mid 60s so I doubt we'll have any problems in filling the two (or possibly three) lockspots there will be in a 25 man.

[Clouku]

We have enough Warlocks as it is, especially active ones.

Please, if you are going to argue about this, take it somewhere else

The class leader made her choice, leave it be.

I wish you the best of luck in your gaming experience and progress Avignon, all the same.

and Agnatal, please for once, show respect.

That is all I'm going to say involving, close this as soon as possible please before it becomes a flame war

[Vildoomer]

Be my guest and show me where I didnt show respect.

@Cpu: I dont want a say in things, I'm merely pointing out some things. And to be honest just think she doesn't want to give him a second chance just because she does not like him. I haven't used any curse words and such, so tell me where I am not polite. I am a very upfront person, But I am in no way disrespectful or not polite. Dont mistake those two.

If you got enough warlock's as it is, fine but just dont let personal matters get at hand here, once more: He has done nothing wrong to deserve this kind of treatment.

[amir]

I'm a warlock do i count as active?

[Qutech]

I haven't used any curse words and such, so tell me where I am not polite. I am a very upfront person, But I am in no way disrespectful or not polite.

So was I.


If you got enough warlock's as it is, fine but just dont let personal matters get at hand here, once more: He has done nothing wrong to deserve this kind of treatment.

What kind of treatment? Me being honest? I AM the warlock class leader, If I don't like the ones I'm responsible for then there is something wrong. And I declined him beacuse of that, our numbers of warlocks AND the rest in the guild who dosen't want him there.

I've spoken to Krag, to decline him wasn't a bad decision. And when it comes to warlocks and invites, he's the only one that can make me change my decision. This isn't a democracy. End of story. I request that this thread should be locked.

I'm a warlock do i count as active?

You aren't really seen as an asset to the raidingaspect of the guild atm. But yes you are a warlock and active :)

[Narcissuss]

Be my guest and show me where I didnt show respect.

@Cpu: I dont want a say in things, I'm merely pointing out some things. And to be honest just think she doesn't want to give him a second chance just because she does not like him. I haven't used any curse words and such, so tell me where I am not polite. I am a very upfront person, But I am in no way disrespectful or not polite. Dont mistake those two.

If you got enough warlock's as it is, fine but just dont let personal matters get at hand here, once more: He has done nothing wrong to deserve this kind of treatment.
You're not rude or anyting your just like a 12 year old on crack, really fucking annoying. Get a life plzkthx.

[Vildoomer]

So was I.


Your point? I didn't call you such things.

What kind of treatment? Me being honest? I AM the warlock class leader, If I don't like the ones I'm responsible for then there is something wrong. And I declined him beacuse of that, our numbers of warlocks AND the rest in the guild who dosen't want him there.

So far you've mentioned two people who don't want in him here. Yeah I'd say that's a whole guild. And as I said, if you got enough warlocks as it is, you won't here me whining, and I'm not whining about that right now am I?


I've spoken to Krag, to decline him wasn't a bad decision. And when it comes to warlocks and invites, he's the only one that can make me change my decision. This isn't a democracy. End of story. I request that this thread should be locked.


That's all I wanted you to do, speak to krag. I wanted avignon to get a fair treatment and not a biased one because you do not like him. Why should it be locked, we're just having a discussion. I see nothing wrong with that, besides the fact that maybe I am right at some points wich always seems to bother certain people.


You're not rude or anyting your just like a 12 year old on crack, really fucking annoying. Get a life plzkthx.


You're free to accuse me of anything you want, as long as you give valid reasons. You finding me "really fucking annoying" isn't really a valid reason methinks.

[Avignon]

OMG talk about controversy O_o if a damed thread gets me this much attention... i gues id be better off out but i still dont see the whole "the guild doesnt want me back" Krag said he does, Cutt said he does, Veneficus said he does, incubis said he doesnt have a prob with me, Mormmegil does..... Anyway, gl from now on..