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Narcissuss
Oct 18, 2006, @ 05:15 PM
"+ Healing: Limited to Priests (cloth), Druids (leather) and Paladins (plate)"

Since when were we an alliance guild? :P

That should read + Healing: Limited to Priests (cloth), Druids (leather) and Shamans (mail)

TooTall
Oct 18, 2006, @ 05:35 PM
Yes.. that's because it's copied from the HotC system :P.

I wonder where the off specc loot treshhold went though, I can't find it in the explination while we agreed on implention that a while back.

Fenixen
Oct 18, 2006, @ 06:52 PM
im really curious about that tootall.. not fun to loose great healing gear to a moonkin or feral druid.. and vice verca..

Celon
Oct 18, 2006, @ 10:26 PM
and im still survival, can i roll on rogue loot then? :D

TooTall
Oct 18, 2006, @ 10:43 PM
im really curious about that tootall.. not fun to loose great healing gear to a moonkin or feral druid.. and vice verca..

Well fact is that people are allowed to roll on the gear for the mail roll of their class regardless of specc, since these people are expected to this job in the raids (except for Hasselhoof, I'm not sure what his case is). So yes moonkins are allowed to get healing loot over resto druids if they have the points.

The treshhold is actually in place to prevent off-speccs from classes that have a certain role in the raid to get loot which will benefit a main class way more for PvE. IE it prevents druids and priets from getting nearly every +dam only gear from MC or any items with +spell hit (this is since these items are of much more value in the hands of a warlock or mage in a raid and since we ask priests and druids to healing nearly all the time anyway we don't benefit from them getting this loot as a group, they only do for solo/PvP/emotional stuff).

So moonkins and feral druids will still be supported to roll on any healing gear they can get. Since this benefits the job they'll be asked to do in raids (again Hasselhoof is an exeption and I'm not yet sure what's going to "happen" in his case).

Narcissuss
Oct 18, 2006, @ 11:14 PM
A tanking druid is a silly idea. :P

TheJohn
Oct 19, 2006, @ 12:41 AM
Priest have exactly the same chance of getting random +dmg gear as mages/lock do. If thats what they want to spend their points on they can roll on it. Only +hit with spells is restricted to Mages/Locks, Since they cant get this on their regular Tiers and Priest wont need it, since they will only be using their DMGgear for PvP/grinding

Narcissuss
Oct 19, 2006, @ 01:35 AM
Priest have exactly the same chance of getting random +dmg gear as mages/lock do. If thats what they want to spend their points on they can roll on it. Only +hit with spells is restricted to Mages/Locks, Since they cant get this on their regular Tiers and Priest wont need it, since they will only be using their DMGgear for PvP/grinding

Uhh no

Learn to read what toot posted.

:fag:

TheJohn
Oct 19, 2006, @ 03:18 AM
Uhh no

Learn to read what toot posted.

:fag:

Then toot is wrong

TheJohn
Oct 19, 2006, @ 03:26 AM
+ Healing: Limited to Priests (cloth), Druids (leather) and Shamans (mail)
+ Defense: Limited to Warriors
+ Shadow: Limited to Priests and Warlocks
+ Fire: Limited to Mages and Warlocks
+ Frost: Limited to Mages
+ Spell Hit: Limited to Mages and Warlocks

It doesnt say anything about +Spelldmg, so priests can roll on it... Like they should be able to.

Narcissuss
Oct 19, 2006, @ 03:35 AM
It doesnt say anything about +Spelldmg, so priests can roll on it... Like they should be able to.
Learn to read the fine print.

Priests will be able to roll on spell damage, but then again they normaly do anyway. But they wont want to waist there points on it.:stfu:

Fenixen
Oct 19, 2006, @ 09:11 AM
Well fact is that people are allowed to roll on the gear for the mail roll of their class regardless of specc, since these people are expected to this job in the raids (except for Hasselhoof, I'm not sure what his case is). So yes moonkins are allowed to get healing loot over resto druids if they have the points.

The treshhold is actually in place to prevent off-speccs from classes that have a certain role in the raid to get loot which will benefit a main class way more for PvE. IE it prevents druids and priets from getting nearly every +dam only gear from MC or any items with +spell hit (this is since these items are of much more value in the hands of a warlock or mage in a raid and since we ask priests and druids to healing nearly all the time anyway we don't benefit from them getting this loot as a group, they only do for solo/PvP/emotional stuff).

So moonkins and feral druids will still be supported to roll on any healing gear they can get. Since this benefits the job they'll be asked to do in raids (again Hasselhoof is an exeption and I'm not yet sure what's going to "happen" in his case).

roger, thanks for explaining, makes sense.. :nod:

TheJohn
Oct 19, 2006, @ 10:13 AM
Learn to read the fine print.

Priests will be able to roll on spell damage, but then again they normaly do anyway. But they wont want to waist there points on it.:stfu:

They can use their Tier points getting healing gear.

So if they want to they can use their random points getting +dmg

TooTall
Oct 19, 2006, @ 10:19 AM
They can't get the best of the best dam gear once Krag ADDS the off specc treshhold to the explination, he forgot and I explained in my previous post what it's about.

Narcissuss
Oct 19, 2006, @ 02:39 PM
They can't get the best of the best dam gear once Krag ADDS the off specc treshhold to the explination, he forgot and I explained in my previous post what it's about.
Quoted for emphasis to thejon :kelet:

Celon
Oct 19, 2006, @ 06:12 PM
A SNELLEPHOINT! :D

TheJohn
Oct 19, 2006, @ 07:31 PM
Learn to read the fine print.

Priests will be able to roll on spell damage, but then again they normaly do anyway. But they wont want to waist there points on it.:stfu:

= False...

So why dont you :stfu:

Narcissuss
Oct 20, 2006, @ 12:39 AM
= False...

So why dont you :stfu:

lol you have already been proven wrong so drop it :fag:

TooTall
Oct 20, 2006, @ 10:01 AM
Priests will be able to roll on cloth +dam gear, but ONLY if it's from ZG (not Hakkar and Jin'do) or AQ20 (not Ossirian) and if it doesn't have +spell hit on it.

Qutech
Oct 20, 2006, @ 10:27 AM
keep away from my dmg gear you silly healbots!!!! >_>
*pats the thottbot screen*

TooTall
Oct 20, 2006, @ 12:29 PM
keep away from my dmg gear you silly healbots!!!! >_>
*pats the thottbot screen*

No worries, the best damage gear is still locked to the lifetap and AoE freaks ^_^.

Qutech
Oct 20, 2006, @ 01:29 PM
Is that a silent hint that I should stop lifetap myself to death at rajaxx? >_>

Celon
Oct 20, 2006, @ 03:14 PM
yes..

unless its a wipe, when we KNOW its a wipe. (like overpulls) people should just use whatever they can to DIE / get out of combat faster so we can resett faster thus go again faster.

TooTall
Oct 20, 2006, @ 03:55 PM
Is that a silent hint that I should stop lifetap myself to death at rajaxx? >_>

No it's a note to myself that I should heal you more when you lifetap and that I have to lern2recognisesuicideswhereIshouldn'thealyou >_>.