View Full Version : I liked life aquatic... a lot...
Karmashock
Jan 4, 2005, @ 03:58 PM
I've started three threads about this on other forums so I don't feel like repeating my rants or copying them here...
I'll just say the movie ruled on many levels... and it makes me sad that most people are too dumb to even understand it.
If you disagree with me, then you're a tasteless prick.. and likely responsible for Hollywood's declining standards... kill yourself.
karmashock.
Larsson7
Jan 4, 2005, @ 04:10 PM
No one fucking cares, asshat!!!!!!
Karmashock
Jan 4, 2005, @ 04:14 PM
anyone that wants to see a good movie or marvel at the fact that it isn't foolish or one dimentional might give a damn
simpletons like yourself have no use for it though... so follow the final instructions in my last post and greet the virgins in paradise... they're all fat and hairy.
Larsson7
Jan 4, 2005, @ 04:27 PM
wtf man - your g/f is gonna meet me in the afterlife? :errr:
The Fell Hand
Jan 4, 2005, @ 06:24 PM
er...lol you two. Anyways, I've been looking forward to it but couldn't make the time. This weekend I guess. I love bill murray, and from the trailers and what I read, it looked good. will comment after I see it then I guess.
Tigre
Jan 4, 2005, @ 07:36 PM
Have you people ever seen the "Razor's Edge" with Bill Murray. I like the film, it isn't the greatest, but the premise is cool and the plot is enjoyable. AND its got Bill Murray in it! Can't wait to see this new film!
Mistress Crystal
Jan 4, 2005, @ 08:31 PM
I liked it, too. It bored me quite a lot in some places, but was very genuine and cute in others. The ending was phenomenal, though.
Karmashock
Jan 4, 2005, @ 08:42 PM
wtf man - your g/f is gonna meet me in the afterlife? :errr:
... your mom sister...
Seriously, the movie wasn't just a comedy... there were several different levels... it was a beautiful film... and I'm not a touchy feely guy... I recoil from terms like "beautiful"... they make me feel icky 99 percent of the time... it just really fits for this film.
I could really go into it... but I'd just be talking to myself... and I don't need to put that down here for that to happen. ;)
laserflip
Jan 5, 2005, @ 02:51 AM
haha tell me about it i might go see it :-D
Karmashock
Jan 5, 2005, @ 02:59 AM
You should really just go see it... I feel kind of weird talking about my interpetation of it before I can have some other people about that have seen it too... The movie is very sureal... but not in a scary french way... it's definitely in the top two best movies this year... I'd have to say in a pinch that I liked it more then aviator... but I liked aviator a lot too... and decaprio's acting was obviously more serious... but while aviator was a rather convientional, though well done, epic... Life aquatic is one of those movies that sticks in your brain enough that you actually want to own it... and I own about 6 movies... lawrence of arabia is amoung them if that means anything...
Karmashock
Jan 5, 2005, @ 04:29 AM
I don't have tv... when I turn my set on... i either get a feed from my computer... dvd player... or snow...
JADezimar
Jan 5, 2005, @ 06:59 AM
I dont care for tv much. I also wont say Im a Great person to listen to on his liking of what he likes to watch. But What I do watch for tv Is some of the anime series on Adult Swim. Like Witch Hunter Robin.
MVB
Jan 5, 2005, @ 07:04 AM
I obviously have to go see The Life Aquatic, for a variety of reasons, not least of which is its marine sceney nature. I'm sure the deeper stuff will provide hours of pleasant contemplation as well.
Mistress Crystal
Jan 5, 2005, @ 07:08 AM
Oh man. I like it Karma. We can discuss it. ;)
I can see why a lot of people don't like it, though. It really is kind of an acquired taste. The simplicity of the ending moved me greatly, great story, well told. Very subtle. My style.
What's funny, though, is I read somewhere that Bill Murray spent a lot of time going through submarine/diver training and like none of the footage is in a submarine, but a prop, and hardly any diving footage.
JADezimar
Jan 5, 2005, @ 07:47 AM
Sigh* anyone hear watch that lame Napolean dynamite movie ?
/<yle
Jan 5, 2005, @ 08:46 AM
Dude, i tottally got to see that. I heard it roxxored
Karmashock
Jan 5, 2005, @ 01:56 PM
I obviously have to go see The Life Aquatic, for a variety of reasons, not least of which is its marine sceney nature. I'm sure the deeper stuff will provide hours of pleasant contemplation as well.
The marine life is mostly fictional... which is really one of the better touchs of the movie. Everything is more mysterious, magical, and wonderful... they move through a world of wonder and majesty that could only be conveyed by going to those surreal lengths. Most of the wildlife is 3d, a fantastical set, completely beautiful in and amazing in such a way as to make you wish the world did actually look like that...
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Oh man. I like it Karma. We can discuss it. ;)
I can see why a lot of people don't like it, though. It really is kind of an acquired taste. The simplicity of the ending moved me greatly, great story, well told. Very subtle. My style.
What's funny, though, is I read somewhere that Bill Murray spent a lot of time going through submarine/diver training and like none of the footage is in a submarine, but a prop, and hardly any diving footage.
There are several plot lines that are all going on at once... my favorite I guess is...
Great and loved adventurer gets old and irrelevant... loses something he loves... questions his existence... decides to ignore the established powers in the world in a quest for revenge and self discovery... or individualism over communalism... encounters hardship and danger... which he overcomes through courage and determination... and in the end... he is reborn... knows himself... and is loved and at peace with the powers again.
there are several plot lines... that was just my favorite... It reminds me of something else, but I want other people to see it before I sound like a raging loony.
Ummon
Jan 5, 2005, @ 03:58 PM
I just read this somewhere, looks interesting.
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My rational mind informs me that this movie doesn't work. Yet I hear a subversive whisper: Since it does so many other things, does it have to work, too? Can't it just exist? "Terminal whimsy," I called it on the TV show. Yes, but isn't that better than half-hearted whimsy, or no whimsy at all? Wes Anderson's "The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou" is the damnedest film. I can't recommend it, but I would not for one second discourage you from seeing it.
To begin with, it has a passage of eerie beauty, in which the oceanographer Steve Zissou (Bill Murray) and his shipmates glide in a submarine past an undersea panorama of wondrous and delightful creatures. They are seeking the dreaded jaguar shark that ate Steve's beloved partner, and when they find it, well, they fall silent and just regard it, because it's kind of beautiful. This could have been a scene from "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" if Captain Nemo had been a pothead.
Zissou is, we learn, the auteur of a series of increasingly uneventful undersea documentaries, in which the momentum is sliding down a graph that will intersect in the foreseeable future with a dead standstill. "The Life Aquatic" opens with the premiere of his latest work, which ends with the audience gazing up at the screen as if it is more interesting now that it is blank. Zissou himself seems to be in the later stages of entropy and may become one of those Oliver Sacks people who just sit there on the stairs for decades, looking at you. His crew would seem slack-witted to SpongeBob.
On board the good ship Belafonte, Zissou has assembled his ex-wife Eleanor (Anjelica Huston), her ex-husband Alistair (Jeff Goldblum), the salty dog Klaus Daimler (Willem Dafoe), the plummy producer Oseary Drakoulias (Michael Gambon), and the financial guy Bill (Bud Cort, so that's what happened to him). Along the way they collect Ned Plimpton (Owen Wilson), who thinks he may be Steve's son, although my theory is he's just another one of George Plimpton's unfinished projects. Their mission is to find the deadly shark, exact revenge, and film the adventure. Covering the expedition is Jane Winslett-Richardson (Cate Blanchett), whose surname suggests she is the result of an affair involving the matriarchs of two great acting families and a designated male, perhaps Ned's birth father.
These characters involve themselves in great plot complications, which are facilitated by the design of the boat, which looks like a rust bucket on the outside but conceals innumerable luxuries, including a spa. There is also a "scientific laboratory" with lots of equipment that looks as if it might have been bought at auction from a bankrupt high school in 1955. Anderson has built a wonderful set with a cutaway front wall so that we can look into all the rooms of the boat at once; it's the same idea Jerry Lewis used in "The Ladies' Man."
Events on the boat are modulated at a volume somewhere between a sigh and a ghostly exhalation. Steve Zissou is very tired. I suggest for his epitaph: Life for him was but a dreary play; he came, saw, dislik'd, and passed away. Ned makes an effort to get to know his father, a task made difficult because Steve may not be his father and is not knowable. Jane, Ned and Steve form a romantic triangle, or perhaps it is just a triangle. A folk singer performs the works of David Bowie in Portuguese, and the ship is boarded by Filipino pirates.
So you see, it's that kind of movie. The colors are like the pastels produced by colored pencils, and kind of beautiful, like the shark. The action goes through the motions of slapstick at the velocity of dirge. Steve Zissou seems melancholy, as if simultaneously depressed that life is passing him by, and that it is taking so long to do it. Anjelica Huston seems privately amused, which is so much more intriguing than seeming publicly amused. Cate Blanchett proves she can do anything, even things she should not do. I forgot to mention that Steve's friend is played by Seymour Cassel, who I think I remember told me one night in Dan Tana's that he had always wanted to be eaten by a shark in a movie.
Karmashock
Jan 5, 2005, @ 06:55 PM
that covers a lot while not understanding anything... it honestly sounds like an english professor describing an engine or a german engineer describing complex poetry...
I don't mean to lay this any thicker then it has to be... but the film just isn't that simple.
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